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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2020, 08:17:21 AM »
RACE 2 : SNOWY ALPS

1ºC

Saint Gervais, French Alps,
The expectations are low in this cold and brutal monster stage of 254km to Sestriere ( Italy ).
Australia has zero golden climbers who are listed as pure climber in the golden climbers list of 336(!) cyclists.
Garza will be the teamcaptain who has a golden icon on flat-climb, but I assume he has just silver on pure climb.
Hopefully he can score a few points anyway.

6 climbers are selected, including the 21yo Furey who makes his debut.
This NT race is a good opportunity to select xp cyclists as well. All 3 are in the u23 Dream Team ;
Hunter (climbills) and Iverson (flat-TT) will make their debut also, and Morton (hills) was selected just 1x before.
And no worries for managers who have also very promising young Australian talents, they are all on my radar and maybe selected next time.
For example the 20yo sprint-toptalent Blair (3x international) will be selected next week.

Australia NT selection :

Anthony Garza ( 28 ) SaulSalinasTeam
Daniel Lucas ( 28 ) SAGASAI
Scott Springsteen ( 28 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Colin Mount ( 23 ) Sacido
Ryan Henderson ( 23 ) FrançaiseDesJeux
Jason Furey ( 21 ) PDM_cycling_team   ( debut )
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Martin Hunter ( 22 ) Quickstepbronx   ( debut )
Tim Morton ( 22 ) Inglourious_Bastards
Charles Iverson ( 22 ) Frenkie   ( debut )

The NT selection is complete, 3 xp cyclists are added.
In a few days more Australian youth lists, hopefully including the u20 list what can be interesting and fun. At the moment too few 19yo's.

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2020, 08:58:36 AM »
In a few days more Australian youth lists, hopefully including the u20 list what can be interesting and fun. At the moment too few 19yo's.

Here are mine:

Dudley Iverson   Edad : 19   Sueldo : 588
Resistencia : 55   Sprint : 2   Montaña : 70
LLano : 41   Pavés : 9   Tecnica : 28
Descenso : 62   Colinas : 41   Agresividad : 6
Crono : 10   TraEqui : 63

Alistair Coleman Edad : 19   Sueldo : 852
Resistencia : 64   Sprint : 14   Montaña : 52
LLano : 30   Pavés : 23   Tecnica : 40
Descenso : 54   Colinas : 43   Agresividad : 59
Crono : 28   TraEqui : 40

Im really impatient to see those lists :)

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2020, 11:42:34 AM »
Im really impatient to see those lists :)
Well, the lists are for fun and an indication to compare. But there is nothing to compare yet, because there are just 18x 19yo's.
So this u20 list is just for fun. :)
And as a reward for scouting in Australia, and as an encouragement to others to also scout in Australia.



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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2020, 10:26:55 PM »
The miracle tactics in the mountains of NT race 2 worked ! Garza finished as 16º8)  :)

Maybe people wonder now :"Why is Vos so happy with just a 16th place ?"
Because this is a more than excellent result and the tactics went perfect, including the help Garza had in the first 3 sections.

And I'm used to race in the mountains with much and much better climbers of my own team, who are even by far not the best in the game.
So I had to adjust the "fox mountain tactics" drastically to the very low level in quality of Garza and his helpers.
And of course heavily dependent on the effect of helpers and the effect of the teamcaptain role.

60 points scored in this race, what makes a total score of 70 points in 2 NT races.
Now we passed Italy, who could not score points with their much better climbers ( among them Coppi and my own Miorlin ),
17 more countries to overtake, because Australia is now 18th in the ranking by nations.

We stay in Italy, because next week a NT sprint race with finish in a cold Milan.

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2020, 08:23:20 AM »
Great great race!!  :o

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2020, 09:21:06 AM »
I just want to see Jasper in the top of few lists...hahaha
Here you go, already in the top of the u23 list. 8)
( and already selected for the upcoming NT sprint race )



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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2020, 09:46:15 AM »
WOW!! Great to see Jasper there!! But also it is a shame to know that we dont have sprinters at all when the best U23 is a 20yo one...

BTW, I just bought Devin Byers, a good prospect of hiller-climbhiller that my training can be good for him...he doesn't have a very high level of hills, but as after flat I will be training hills...maybe I can make a good cyclist for our country  :)

Devin Byers   Age : 20   Wage : 828
Stamina : 62   Sprint : 6   Climbing : 59
Flat : 40   Cobblestone : 8   Technique : 51
Downhill : 55   Hills : 83   Aggressiveness : 64
Time Trial : 13   Teamwork : 15   Experience : 5

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2020, 10:14:53 AM »
Indeed, in some specialities Australia has no generation at all, or even more generations without a decent good cyclist.

About Devin Beyers, he is just outside the top15 of the list above, coincidental 8x 20yo's just outside the u23 climbhills list ;

16  Tim Caan   20      Mir      61,68
17  Dean Chambers   20      Arosa       61,54
18  Devin Byers   20      Manicomicos_Cycling_Team      61,09
19  Noel Moore   20      GOAT       60,80
20  Callum Walkins   20      Ares      60,70
21  Kendall Palmer   20      Teamsomio      60,66
22  Benjamin Glass   20      team_piroshki      60,16
23  Jasper Brown   20      Gepetto_Broders      59,78

This week I will also post the u21 and the u22 lists, then it will be more clear and then all different youth lists are posted.
Next week I will post another u20 list, hopefully then much more 19yo Australians than we have now.
Because also in the new generation we are missing out many specialities at the moment.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2020, 10:18:04 AM by Vos »

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2020, 10:22:21 AM »
BTW, I just want to say that I have plenty of millions, so, any good aussie that my training of flat and then tech suites his skills...feel free to offer him to me and you will be rich!  ;D ;D

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2020, 03:31:38 PM »


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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2020, 05:30:14 PM »
can you do only the 19 year olds, so I know where to pull/search?

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2020, 05:44:44 PM »
can you do only the 19 year olds, so I know where to pull/search?
2 days ago I posted the u20 list.
https://cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php?topic=632.msg21631#msg21631

Tomorrow I will post the u21 list, the only youth list I did not posted yet.
Probably that list will make also clear where Australia needs good 19yo's.
If not, I will post the u20 list again. At the moment 24x 19yo's and just a few good ones. Tomorrow more about this.
For now, everything is needed, it does not matter much what you scout/recruit for, every good 19yo is an asset to Australia.
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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2020, 09:47:31 PM »
Next season & the season after, I'm going to make an attempt for some new 19 year old TTers, so we'll probably get covered there.  It's just in most other areas that we're lacking.

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2020, 09:10:40 AM »
Jasper "The Bullet" Blair, 20 years old.

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Re: Australia NT Season 10
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2020, 12:51:26 PM »


Australia u21


The current best 19yo's are also in this u21 list.
This week I make a u20 list again, so with just the 19yo's. Today one less 19yo compared to yesterday, at the moment just 23x 19yo's.

About the question :"what is the best to recruit/scout ?"

According to me this can be the best answered by looking at the big picture, and not just looking at one generation.
In CFF3 the cyclists are 7 seasons at their peak, and 8 seasons if you count the 31yo's as well. The real top cyclists are still good then.
The best is to look at all youth generations ( = 5 seasons ) to see what Australia needs,
ánd to look at the most common NT races on the calendar.

The 6 types of NT races that are almost every season on the calendar :
Flat-TT, flat-sprint, hills, cobblehills, flat-cobble and climb (sometimes with 1 or 2 flat sections).
By memory, so correct me if I'm wrong ; after these 6 most important types, there was 3x flat-hills and 2x hills-TT in all 9 NT seasons.
But sometimes one of the 6 most important types had 2 (the same) NT races on the season calendar.
So let's look how Australia will do in the future in those 6 most important types.

flat-TT =

flat-sprint =

hills =

cobblehills =

flat-cobble =

climb ( sometimes with 1 or 2 flat sections ) =

Blanc spaces, because it is a nice puzzle for all Australian managers to try to solve.
What helps to puzzle ; I posted lists of every generation, and most Australian managers can see the u23 DT and all golden CFF lists.
Of course, it is too difficult to estimate how good a very young Australian really will be ;
the talent rating is of influence, and even more important can be how good a manager trains the young Australian talent.

For those who don't like to puzzle ; it seems to me that recruiting/scouting in 19yo cobblehills talents benefits the future of Australia.
But there are more good options (such as flat-cobble and even climb), and every toptalent (in no matter what) is welcome Down Under. :)
« Last Edit: June 17, 2020, 12:57:03 PM by Vos »