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How many variable stages would you prefer in the NT calendar?

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7 (38.9%)

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Voting closed: March 26, 2020, 01:48:28 PM

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Vos

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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2020, 05:34:58 PM »
I'm against a totally random calendar, I think that at least we should have 4 of this 5 types mountain (pure, flat, hills), TT (pure, flat, hills), hills (pure, flat), cobb (pure, hills), sprint (pure, hills) as a fixed races and 3 totally random.
This would be perfect and every NT calendar will be very different in this way.
Also every specialism will be on the NT calender, sooner or later. So it seems to me everyone would be happy with such a various calendar.
I totally agree with you, Franky.
In fact, to me this is the only good option for the NT calendar. Of course no problem if it will be different than this, I will adapt, but if I was the maker of the NT calendar software, for sure I would make it something like Franky mentioned.

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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2020, 09:43:49 AM »
I'm against a totally random calendar, I think that at least we should have 4 of this 5 types mountain (pure, climb, hills), TT (pure, flat, hills), hills (pure, flat), cobb (pure, hills), sprint (pure, hills) as a fixed races and 3 totally random.
I totally agree with Franky as well. It would make possible to have mountain-hills and sprint-hills at least once every 3 seasons. The difference between what Franky said and the current calendar is that the mountain, TT and sprint fixed stages are always pure. And there are 2 fixed cobble stages, one pure and one hills.

I would even stablish the 5 types as fixed, and 2 random.

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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2020, 12:22:39 PM »
What about, mount- sprint, cobble-hills-sprint, t.trial with downhill, mont-cobble, mont-hill-sptint,  t.trial flat mount... There are a lot of  top riders, that would never be able to have the chance of winning an International race ir even be selected for one.


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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2020, 01:47:34 PM »
Apart from the mount sprint, which is quite common, the rest that you mentioned, Peachey, are rare. I would include mount-sprint in the sprint fixed stage, and the other as an option for the random stages. Something like this:

-Stage 1: hills (random between pure hills and flat hills stages)
-Stage 2: sprint (random between flat sprint, hill sprint and mountain sprint stages)
-Stage 3: mountain (random between pure climb, flat climb and hills climb)
-Stage 4: random all types
-Stage 5: TT (random between all TT stages available -flat, hills, mountain and mixed)
-Stage 6: random all types
-Stage 7: cobble (random between flat cobble, cobble hills and cobble sprint)

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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2020, 02:39:49 PM »
The random part is detabable, in my point of view totally random can be avoided by giving percentages in the software.
An example :
-Stage 5: TT (random between all TT stages available -flat, hills, mountain and mixed)
-Stage 5: TT (semi-random with these percentages; 50% chance flat TT, 25% hills TT, 15% mountain TT, other 10% distrubed over other TTs)

Just an example, so the percentages can be different. I did not think about the percentages thoroughly, it is just to show that in this way every rare race can be on the NT calendar sooner or later.

Also one standard flat TT race every season is fine by my (like it is now, also in CFF2 and also on the regular calendar, WC TT).
And for example in another NT stage 50% is distrubed over other kinds of TTs, and 50% is distrubed over another kind of race type.

The percentages are chances, just like picking red(50%)or black(also 50%) on the roulette table.
So it is possible it will be red for a few times in a row.
My "roulette table" of the CFF NT races would have many colours. And in every NT stage different colours. Because of the ranking/arrangement of NT races, like for example Ophiuko posted. With the addition of every kind of race and the rare ones get a very low chance percentage.

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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2020, 04:58:54 PM »
Something like this:

-Stage 1 HILLS: random between pure-hills and flat-hills.
-Stage 2 SPRINT: random between flat-sprint and hill-sprint.
-Stage 3 MOUNTAIN: random between pure-climb and hills-climb.
-Stage 4 MIXED (or less important) type of stages: random between TT-mountain, mountain-sprint, mountain-cobble, cobble-hills-sprint and mountain-flat.
-Stage 5 TT: random between TT-flat and TT-hills.
-Stage 6 random ALL TYPE of stage.
-Stage 7 COBBLE: random between flat-cobble and cobble-hills.

I think it is very balanced and every type of cyclist will have the chance to win a race or the individual classification :)

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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2020, 06:05:21 PM »
We are all having the same idea with small differences.

I think Oska will read it and make a final "format" for the NT races with our suggestions  :D

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Re: NT Calendar
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2020, 09:51:10 PM »
Some time ago (just because) I had drawn up what my NT schedule would be, but I feel it's best not to say X unless it's sought (I'll just say that ophiuko's isn't it).