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Title: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 09, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20

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Perth City : Swan River Cycling Loop - 6km, 10km, or 18km - Western Australia

Welcome to season 20.  Australia is golden and besides Vos or one of several other Aussie managers being in this position, or if WiC came to Australia, it would be hard to see how Australia could be shorter priced favourites to win the NT title for the third season running (well we could have a 2nd flat-TT race but anyway).  I did notice that we're void of any cobblers younger than 25, so if anybody is training cobbles get your international scout to Australia for almost guaranteed NT selection in upcoming seasons.

But anyway, current Australian cyclist rankings below.

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Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 10, 2021, 01:32:23 PM
Race 1 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)
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Selections :
Gerard Shields   31   Quickstepbronx (captain)
James Bush   24   Antequera
Zack Walkins   31   azerite
Fergus Emerton   27   Artxube
Herbie Fredickson   30   Quickstepbronx
Nate Gailes   24   Cabrasverdes
Danny Gill   24   ICSluj
Rob Mitchell   22   Valderend (3/4 XP)
Michael Odom   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team   25 (current final selection, may be changed for XP cyclist)
Prospects: First, I was curious on the changes from last season, and the good news is that we have three 24yos slotting into the team for the next 7 or 8 seasons, with James Bush looking like being the next hills captain.  Rob Mitchell's progress might make Bush into a super free-role cyclist, but that's for the future.  This season we're seeking a better result than last season, with a podium expected.

Results:
9th   James Bush      0: 23"   130 points
When a 22-year-old Rob Mitchell can keep up with everybody, a team captain racing aggressively should have been able to.  Luckily we had Antequera's star hiller to save us from a complete disaster.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on October 10, 2021, 04:00:34 PM
The NT calendar looks very nice, and versatile, even with a flat-hills-climb race in it.
The just 24yo Walter Muller ( Villavante ) is the current best hillsclimber in the CFF ranking.
I gave him his debut a few seasons ago, but I cannot remember if he has a good flat skill, what is needed for this NT race 6.
And no problem if Muller has no flat skill, because I suspect that the 32yo Martin Hunter ( Manicomicos_Cycling_Team ) likes this race a lot.

And it is fun to see the u23 Dream Team with 7x Australian TT specialists. 8)
Also Australian ; nr 7 hills, nr 8 climb, and nr 5 tours.

I expect that the individual NT world championship will be decided by a lottery among the 7 NT race victors.
Hopefully an Australian can win a NT race, so he will join this lottery and maybe even win it.

Have fun and good luck this NT season, Aurora Australis ! :)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: vlominck on October 10, 2021, 07:49:20 PM
 Walter Muller no tiene llano....tiene exactamente 30...jajaa
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: ophiuko on October 10, 2021, 09:27:25 PM
As vlominck said, Walter Muller doesn't have any flat so he is not suitable for the NT race 6.
I would like to add, to give Aurora some extra info, that last season Martijn Heiblok won that stage in Tirreno Adriatico, and the one with most victories is Lazare Pires. So basically it looks like that good GT riders are more suitable than hillclimbers, unless these hillclimbers have a lot of flat. In other words: mountain is the most important skill, and then flat might be more or equally important than hills. And aggres. may not be so important. It will be a hard selection though.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 11, 2021, 08:26:42 AM
If Gerard Shields was a real cyclist, he'd be..., well let's have a look at the u24 Aussie team instead.  I did consider removing the Cobble section & having either TT-Hills or Hills-Flat there, but the TT-Hills are my five (minus Billy), followed by catapunchimpon's two, closely followed by PDM's two (so pretty much like TT-flat with slight rearrangement), and the flat-hillers are already in the pure-hills list, so you can look at the lack of cyclists under the cobbles column (we really need to offer cash incentives for cobbler teams to send their scouts downunder, what's the budget for that?....... no budget? and against the rules to undertake bribery? ......, well can we recommend cobbler teams to send their scouts here anyway?  Yes?  Good, we'll do that).
Anyway, the u24 team.
U24 Cyclists
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Btw Vos, the NT individual jersey, when cyclists are equal on points, is decided by most NT caps, so an Aussie wouldn't get it in that situation.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on October 11, 2021, 03:28:34 PM
Btw Vos, the NT individual jersey, when cyclists are equal on points, is decided by most NT caps, so an Aussie wouldn't get it in that situation.
I did not know this, and the very first time I read this on the forum.
But I assume you are right, because it sounds like your convident about this.
I had this situation once before, but I cannot remember in which season and who the cyclists were. Maybe it even was in CFF2.
To me this is not a fair way to decide who gets the jersey ; a lottery would be more fair.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on October 11, 2021, 03:47:37 PM
I found it, I had this situation in season 10, see quote ;

And maybe Australia wins the individual world championship ?
Because the 7 NT race winners are on a split number 1 with 300 points, and CFF gives Richard Levin the nr1 position.
But I clicked all 7 cyclists, and nobody has the individual NT championship jersey yet of season 10. Maybe it will show after the update.

After the update Yannick Pierre ( Belgium ) was "awarded" with the individual NT jersey.

But I have no idea who was more experienced.
I know that Levin had a very good xp ( thé favorite xp cyclist to all Aus. NT managers ).
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 11, 2021, 03:49:43 PM
It was actually discussed in the Aussie Season 12 thread, as a result of the Aussie Season 10 thread, and a more detailed discussion somewhere else that mentioned the cobbler with 20 something NT races (who won the jersey).
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Franky on October 13, 2021, 10:01:33 AM
Fraser Kitchens #2 in the U23 TT DT  ::) :D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: thorboassonarvesen on October 13, 2021, 11:01:49 PM
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It was actually discussed in the Aussie Season 12 thread, as a result of the Aussie Season 10 thread, and a more detailed discussion somewhere else that mentioned the cobbler with 20 something NT races (who won the jersey).

"the cobbler" you mean the one and only Bram Travin !!!
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 14, 2021, 08:41:03 AM
Race 2 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)
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Selections :
Jason Furey   31   CajaRuralZamora
Dudley Iverson   29   LottoStelvio
Norm Bush*   28   HTCHungria (switched to leader)
*weather bonus

6 more selected.
Ryan Henderson   33   TeamMajer
Colin Mount   33   Teka
Martin Wilson   25   WinterIsComing
Henry Footman   24   BLOEMENAANDEMITTE
Barret Ryan   23   RajenKujen
Garret Woods   22   Zatarra (3 gale wind, need extra backup domestique: Plus needs to be raced, don't let a potential team leader be unfulfilled)
Des Brown      24   Villavante
Prospects: Last season Bush overperformed into a 10th place finish.  There are far better climbers out there, but we'll seek to defy them with another high finish (must beat Allan Tuum).

Results:
5th   Norm Bush      0: 29"   180 points
It was better than my expectation at the start of the race, and any points missed by Furey not keeping up with him into the last section is minor.    More importantly, no NT teams have gained a major advantage.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 15, 2021, 09:03:02 AM
Fraser Kitchens #2 in the U23 TT DT  ::) :D
He just needs a bit more racetime in him.  Of course your likely next training specialty for climbers is going to be useless for him, I would have loved to have brought him back after having completed my team's flat training, but he's no longer suited to my trainings either.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Franky on October 15, 2021, 10:49:22 AM
Fraser Kitchens #2 in the U23 TT DT  ::) :D
He just needs a bit more racetime in him.  Of course your likely next training specialty for climbers is going to be useless for him, I would have loved to have brought him back after having completed my team's flat training, but he's no longer suited to my trainings either.

As I said before...I'm a bit disconnected from the game in the last months... so, I forgot to run in a lot of races... :-\
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 18, 2021, 03:43:09 PM
Before we look at the next NT race, let's have our first look at how the 19-year-olds are progressing compared to the 20-year-olds.  Just several notes.  OphiukoCT is buying hill-sprinters, and TeaMetal is buying hill-cobblers, so promoting in that area is a sound plan this season.  Of course I'm hoping to have further luck in this, because I'll be spending everything on 19-year-old TTers in the following two seasons.

U21 Cyclists
see attachment
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: JGonmar6 on October 20, 2021, 09:19:07 PM
Alex Ablett   Edad : 19   Sueldo : 852
Resistencia : 31   Sprint : 28   Montaña : 5
LLano : 23   Pavés : 56   Tecnica : 68
Descenso : 33   Colinas : 67   Agresividad : 58
Crono : 10   TraEqui : 67   Experiencia : 0
Precio : 3 500 000   Dias Quedan : 3
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 21, 2021, 03:14:18 AM
Race 3
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Selections :
Jasper Blair   30   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team (team leader)
Ian Hamsten   27   Plopsala
Leroy Ablett   27   Vicam
Jasper Caan   23   SaulSalinasTeam
Horace Stamer   20   Sacido
Richard Davidson   31   Luka_Warriors
Tim Malone   30   Pantani28

Stu Vaughn   20   JGMTeam (xp)
Christian Post   23   SentinelChickens (xp - may change as TT-climb isn't common in NTs, but alternatives are those already with xp NTs, those without races by team, those with uncertain progressions, or Alex Trautemberg)
Prospects: Ryan Pierre, who finished 4th in last season's sprint race, is now 33 years & has decayed considerably.  Instead it's back to sprint-hill-sprinter Jasper Blair to seek points.  His goal is simply to tag the tails of the expected winners of the race, with a top ten our goal.  Jasper Caan, aged 23 (and already gold), is his third domestique & heir apparent for the leader's position within two seasons; and Horace Stamer, the other potential long-term team leader if Sacido keeps him at peak training efficiency, is the fifth selection.

Results:
6th   Jasper Blair      0: 00"   160 points

You wonder whether you could have done better, however Australia does move up in the standings, and none of the other NTs have advanced to a threatening position, so it's job done.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Zatarra on October 24, 2021, 08:30:56 AM
In my help to find hillssprinters en cobblehillers I accidentally found Australia's next top hiller.

Sean Chapman   Age : 19   Wage : 860
Stamina : 46   Sprint : 28   Climbing : 39
Flat : 50   Cobblestone : 12   Technique : 61
Downhill : 59  Hills : 60   Aggressiveness : 78
Time Trial : 12   Teamwork : 11   Experience : 0
Price : 1   Days left : 3   Stages raced : 0
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 25, 2021, 02:01:39 PM
Race 4 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
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Selections :
Kirk Workman   Aurora_Australis   32 **
Bud Mount   ChronoTony   28
Jason Duffy   Shiro_Lions   28
Walt Judd   Matterhorn   28
Christian Pocock   Aurora_Australis   27 *
Kirk Clinton   Aurora_Australis   27
Nobby Licuria   Aurora_Australis   27
Tod Henderson   Aurora_Australis   27
* weather bonus
Prospects: Workman's last serious opportunity, Mount favoured, Licuria & Henderson possible surprises, with Pocock a top 10 opportunity.  Unusually, the 7th & 8th picks are clear this early too, being substantially faster than any 9th option.  At the moment Julian Frances age 30 from Bergtoppers is short favourite as the 9th selection from my other two full age TTers or Steve Odom, or a less likely Paul Williams.

8 cyclists expected to score points, the final pick is a remote chance.
Results:
They did everything except win the race.  7 in top 9, all in top 20, and a new record points haul for a single NT race.

2nd   Tod Henderson      0: 00"   250 points
4th   Bud Mount         0: 02"   200 points
5th   Kirk Workman      0: 02"   180 points
6th   Kirk Clinton      0: 03"   160 points
7th   Christian Pocock      0: 03"   150 points
8th   Walt Judd         0: 04"   140 points
9th   Nobby Licuria      0: 04"   130 points
14th   Jason Duffy      0: 07"   80 points
17th   Julian Frances      0: 08"   40 points

Total 1330 points
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on October 25, 2021, 11:59:28 PM
A 6th place with Blair in a flat sprint race = very well done, AA !  8)
Good luck in the time trial.

I see that Russia is the surprising leader in the season ranking, and in contrast to previous season,
now it has a NT selection in the time trial because my Makarov is already selected.
But he is most likely the only Russian who can score points, so, no problem to the Australian supremacy in the time trial.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: ophiuko on October 26, 2021, 10:01:28 AM
Just to mention that I already spent all my money (77M), so I won't be needing more hill sprinters. I've had very bad luck this season, lots of low talents, including the 3 promising australian riders (2 promoted and 1 from Aurora Australis). Hopefully Craig Haber will be a good talent, finger crossed.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on October 30, 2021, 08:50:01 AM
The final selection was as expected.  As we wait for the race, here's a fresh look at the current stats of the next TT generation.

FLAT-TTers            
#   Score   Name   Age   Team
1   92.47   Jonny Alfier   23   Aurora_Australis
2   92.43   Eric Armstrong   23   Aurora_Australis
3   88.31   Gilbert Johnston   22   catapunchimpon
4   87.75   Lenny Taylor   22   Aurora_Australis
5   87.57   Alex Trautemberg   22   Aurora_Australis
6   87.53   Billy Janson   22   Aurora_Australis
7   87.30   Bob Iverson   22   catapunchimpon
8   86.31   Eddy Hines   22   Aurora_Australis
14   80.70   Oliver Churchil   21   PDM_cycling_team
16   78.69   Jonathan Trump   21   PDM_cycling_team
17   78.11   Ashley Filsbourne   21   Trisquel

HILL-TTers            
#   Score   Name   Age   Team
1   81.98   Eric Armstrong   23   Aurora_Australis
2   81.36   Alex Trautemberg   22   Aurora_Australis
3   79.77   Eddy Hines   22   Aurora_Australis
4   78.70   Jonny Alfier   23   Aurora_Australis
5   78.52   Lenny Taylor   22   Aurora_Australis
6   78.42   Gilbert Johnston   22   catapunchimpon
7   78.24   Stu Reid   22   catapunchimpon
14   74.44   Oliver Churchil   21   PDM_cycling_team
17   73.36   Jonathan Trump   21   PDM_cycling_team

CLIMB-TTers            
#   Score   Name   Age   Team
1   91.27   Christian Post   23   SentinelChickens
2   90.48   Daniel Finn   23   SentinelChickens
3   88.03   Fraser Kitchens   22   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
4   80.10   Jonny Alfier   23   Aurora_Australis

Something worth noting, there are over a hundred TTers aged between 20 & 22 currently in training in all TT teams (mainly 20-21), and possibly more unknown teams.  There's going to be a fair few of those teams & cyclists crowded out in this specialist field.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 03, 2021, 12:42:03 PM
Seasons ago I recall saying the then NT points record would never be beaten.  Well, for the second year running that's been proven to be an inaccurate prediction. With seven of the cyclists aged 27 or 28, it's possible we can beat it in the next couple of seasons, even if it turns out to be Kirk Workman's last NT race.
Race 4 : 1330 Points  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/dohatt.jpg)


Results:
2nd   Tod Henderson      0: 00"   250 points
4th   Bud Mount         0: 02"   200 points
5th   Kirk Workman      0: 02"   180 points
6th   Kirk Clinton      0: 03"   160 points
7th   Christian Pocock      0: 03"   150 points
8th   Walt Judd         0: 04"   140 points
9th   Nobby Licuria      0: 04"   130 points
14th   Jason Duffy      0: 07"   80 points
17th   Julian Frances      0: 08"   40 points
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 03, 2021, 01:21:56 PM
With the promotion of 19-year-olds all but done for another season, let's see how the thirty-six current 19-year-olds compare with the best 20-year-old cyclist in each category.

TeaMetal is the big winner this season, with numerous hill-cobblers who should feature strongly in NTs to come, particularly if their talent is kind.  Like always there are a few potential climbers, although fewer than usual.  Hiller Sean Chapman is the other cyclist of interest, particularly with his aggression (let's just say don't make him angry).  Lion1984's sprinters have reasonable AV for 19-year-olds, however Sacido's 20-year-olds are the sprinters to have long-term.  The lack of TTers doesn't matter, because you know, Aussie TT hopefuls will be knocking on my door for the next two seasons.

Anyway, cyclist's AVs in attachment.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 07, 2021, 09:54:24 AM
Race 5 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)
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Selections :
Sam Rooney   Agua_Verde   30 *
Marc Ashley   TeaMetal   27
Marc Huling   Turrones   27 (leader)
Brooklyn Abolins   Elgrand   26
Nick Thompson   TeaMetal   26
Dylan Lucas   Zatarra   25
Mannie Hines   Villavante   24
Neil Spiker   ChessPower   24 *

* weather bonus : also may be replaced if I go for more than 1 XP junior.  If zero juniors selected, then Bob Janson or Oliver Odom is the final pick.
Prospects: No prospects given, team leader TBD Marc Huling, will seek the best result possible (well duh).

Results:
9th   Dylan Lucas      0: 07"   130 points
13th   Neil Spiker         0: 21"   90 points
15th   Marc Huling      0: 21"   70 points
16th   Mannie Hines      0: 21"   60 points
18th   Sam Rooney      0: 28"   30 points

Most of the team decided to go on an Australian breakaway after the team leader slipped back with two other domestiques in section 2, which meant lots of Australians in the points, but of course no possible win.  We've extended our lead over all other NTs to 1205 points.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: ophiuko on November 09, 2021, 05:56:13 PM
Incredible performance this season  :o :o. Only 400 points to beat the record of max points on a season, and still 2 races to go.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on November 13, 2021, 12:27:33 PM
Indeed, with already 2.180 points after 5 races, there is a good chance that there will be a new record this season. 8)

 :) TOP 10 ranking of most points per season : 

1. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg) ( Aurora Australis ) season 7 with 2.570 points ( incl. 2.000 TT points ; this season had 2 flat TT races, won by Levin and Trump ).
2. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg) ( Vos ) season 18 with 2.525 points.
3. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) season 14 with 2.325 points.
4. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg) ( Aurora Australis ) season 19 with 2.155 points.
4. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/belgica.jpg) season 10 with 2.155 points.
6. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) season 13 with 2.140 points.
7. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) season 6 with 2.060 points.
8. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) season 4 with 2.045 points.
9. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) season 13, as number 2, with 2.005 points.
10. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) season 17 with 2.000 points.
10. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) season 12 with 2.000 points.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 14, 2021, 10:02:12 AM
Race 6 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/sestola.jpg)

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Selections :
Martin Hunter   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team   32 * (free role)
Callum Walkins   RealMurciaCycling   30
Kendall Palmer   IntellinetCyclingFF   30 * (leader)
Andy Friend   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team   28
Donovan Baxter   AmericanChow   27
Elton Fevola   Sacido   25
Gary Sheehan   Antequera   25 *
Emerson Janson   ICSluj   23 *
* weather bonus

Garret Woods   LOSRAYOSDELARRY   22 is the final selection, slightly a hopeful encouragement selection as the cyclist is potentially the next NT climber captain if managed properly.
Prospects: Weather will help, but not expecting a podium.  Hoping that a few cyclists will end up in the points so we have a chance at the highest NT team score in a season (will need most of the points in this race), and also to extend the gap over second to more than 1330 points.

Results:
12th   Kendall Palmer      0: 37"   100 points
16th   Martin Hunter      0: 51"   60 points
19th   Emerson Janson      0: 57"   20 points

Tactics were wrong, and alternative tactics would have been as well.  No chance at victory, but did miss a potential top ten result or two.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on November 14, 2021, 11:35:41 AM
Maybe I was too optimistic with " a good chance ", and it should be just " a chance ".
Because this FFFHM race might be very tricky as NT race, and before the race it is unpredictable what will happen.

But even if the last 2 NT races go bad or unlucky,
it seems to me that this season is already very succesful 8), and you have just " luxury goals " in the final 2 NT races.  :)
Unless another country surprises and scores an extreme big amount of points. Not likely, and according to me even impossible by now.

About luxury goals ;
Only Spain was 3 times NT world champion in a row ( seasons 4 + 5 + 6 ), and Australia can equal that this season.

And fun to mention the current ranking of most world championships ; Australia rules !  8) :) =

6x (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg)  s19 + s18 + s15 + s11 + s7 + s2
4x (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg)  s12 + s6 + s5 + s4
2x (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg)  s17 + s8
2x (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg)  s16 + s3
2x (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg)  s14 + s13
2x (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/belgica.jpg)  s10 + s9
0x = all other countries

Good luck with world championship number 7 in this season 20, AA !
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 14, 2021, 02:01:51 PM
A good chance would be the correct assessment.  Depending on how our cobbler Keith Hunter has fared this season (haven't looked since the start of the season but he's been slowly going backwards since turning 24), we'll get 100-150 points in race 7.    That leaves near 300 points, which is three reasonable points scorers, or a 6th-8th finish plus a top 15.  It's realistic, particularly with the weather bonus (we have plenty of good cyclists for the race, just none perfect for it), and even if we're short, we always have a chance in race 7 to maybe score more.

Anyway, if anybody is considering an NT tilt, you're recommended to give it full consideration.  There's plenty of opportunities to score more points than this season, and with our team's solid backbone now across multiple disciplines, you can expect to be successful.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Kekipi on November 14, 2021, 10:40:02 PM
Maybe I was too optimistic with " a good chance ", and it should be just " a chance ".
Because this FFFHM race might be very tricky as NT race, and before the race it is unpredictable what will happen.
I would not have predicted that an American would win it.  But, surprise, surprise, surprise, one did!   ;D

According to a little bird, the US captain, Shane O'Neill, employed conservative tactics (i.e. 12 EPs) and was fortunate to have helpers in S4.

Also surprising is that the USA is currently in 3rd in the team standings. 

In the final CCCCC race, maybe there will be a miracle, akin to the US victory over the Soviets in ice hockey in 1980.

Though such a miraculous occurrence is unlikely, the ugly Americans will try.   8)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on November 15, 2021, 12:19:46 PM
Great American victory, very well done Kekipi !  8)
Good luck in the final NT race, and if you can hold on to the 3rd place, it will be the best season result ever of the USA.

Of course also good luck to Aurora Australis.
After this NT race 6 it is still possible to get the record of most points ever, but it will be an exciting, very difficult challenge now,
because Australia has to score more than 210 points in the final NT race to break the record.

Keith Hunter was the only one who scored points in the flatcobble races of the last 2 seasons.
2nd in s18 and 4th in s19, and he needs a 3rd place now ( = 225 points ).
But he dropped a lot in the CFF ranking since s18, and he is now the 8th flatcobble specialist of the game.
So he has to do surprising well to achieve that 3rd place.
Or he has to do amazing as well and finish 5th + that Aurora Australis has to do some magic by getting a free role finishing as 17th.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on November 15, 2021, 12:32:03 PM
And most likely more important ; already Australia secured the world championship after NT race 6.
Because it is impossible that Great Britain will score 1.240 points more than Australia in the final race.
So, I assume it is already official and therefore :) ;

(https://i.imgur.com/o4Zu8VM.gif)

congratulations with the world championship, Aurora Australis !  8)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 17, 2021, 01:07:55 PM
Race 7 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/frau.jpg)

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Selections :
Keith Hunter      30   RealMurciaCycling (leader)
Peter Boit         30   Combuijs *
Sean Jameson      30   Ciclastur **
Vince Whisman      29   Luka_Warriors
Dave Taylor      26   Bikeos
Donald Odom      26   CajaRuralZamora *

* weather bonus

There aren't really any others suitable, so they'll probably be XP cyclists.  Martin Fevola of IntellinetCyclingFF will most likely be the first of these.
Prospects:
Well yes, two goals.  First, the 210 points to be the highest-scoring team ever.  As Vos says, we need luck on our side.  Is possible, but not short odds.  The second is to be more than 1330 points ahead of the next NT team (technically given that 2nd & 3rd in NT standings also scored TT points we could say less, but the goal is nice to have).  Chances are there, maybe.

Results:
16th   Keith Hunter      0: 19"   60 points
Should have stayed with my traditional cobbles tactic.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: horace_vr on November 24, 2021, 06:19:48 AM
Can you publish an end-of-the-season ranking of young AU prospects ?
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 25, 2021, 01:33:28 PM
I'm sure Vos will give a ratings in the new season horace.

Season 20 Results
Australia - 2420 Points
Position 1st

Most Points : Race 4 TT - 1320 points

Cyclists
250 points   Tod Henderson   27   Aurora_Australis   1*2nd
200 points   Bud Mount   28   ChronoTony
180 points   Norm Bush   28   HTCHungria
180 points   Kirk Workman   32   Aurora_Australis
160 points   Jasper Blair   30   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
160 points   Kirk Clinton   27   Aurora_Australis
150 points   Christian Pocock   27   Aurora_Australis
140 points   Walt Judd   28   Matterhorn
130 points   James Bush   24   Antequera
130 points   Nobby Licuria   27   Aurora_Australis
130 points   Dylan Lucas   25   Zatarra
90 points   Neil Spiker   24   ChessPower
80 points   Jason Duffy   28   Shiro_Lions
70 points   Marc Huling   27   Turrones
60 points   Keith Hunter   30   RealMurciaCycling
60 points   Mannie Hines   24   Villavante
40 points   Julian Frances   30   Bergtoppers
30 points   Sam Rooney   30   Agua_Verde
20 points   Emerson Janson   23   ICSluj
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: Vos on November 25, 2021, 03:49:28 PM
I'm sure Vos will give a ratings in the new season horace.
Yes, I will, if I will be elected as NT manager.

About next season ; if you want to do the NT job, it is still possible to be a candidate today.
And no problem at all for me to withdraw as a candidate.
In fact, I would prefer it if someone else than me is the NT manager, and we have many excellent Australians managers who can do the job.
For example these two, who unfortunately will not be a candidate :

Zattara = He never was NT manager before, and I think he would do amazing in his debut.
Unfortunately, his team had no selections since the Tour de Suisse.
Hopefully he did not stop, or even worse, something bad happened. Hopefully he is allright and has just a break in CFF.
His team has excellent Australians, including young talents. To their training and to Australia, it is not good that Zatarra is not active.

Ophiuko = He was only once NT manager, in one of the rare seasons that Australia did not had a good generation,
and on top of that, he was extreme unlucky with a very bad NT season schedule.
But he wrote on the forum that he has not much time next season.
Hopefully he will be candidate for season 22, because he is an excellent manager and in my opinion he needs a revanche,
and in much better circumstances, because the current Australian generation is amazing.

Many thanks to Aurora Australis, who did again a superb NT job with again an Australian world championship. 8)

Also no problem to me, if you ( AA ) want to do the NT job next season too, and if this is the case, I will withdraw as candidate.
Besides my not big ambition to be the NT manager next season, but if there are no other candidates ;
I have the time for it next season and I will enjoy to do the NT job.
So, expect the same as the other seasons when I was the Australian NT manager, including publishing lists sometimes.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 20
Post by: horace_vr on November 26, 2021, 06:30:06 AM
I'm sure Vos will give a ratings in the new season horace.

Season 20 Results
Australia - 2420 Points
Position 1st

Most Points : Race 4 TT - 1320 points


Congratulations for bagging this one too!