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General / Re: WCS 2021
« on: July 13, 2021, 06:24:04 PM »
I am losing my lead, to many abandons again.
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General / Re: WCS 2021
« on: June 29, 2021, 05:56:58 PM »
well this tour is going much better compared to the giro, just sad about ewan. But first in the cff group and 42th in the general GC.
Now I have to keep it.
Now I have to keep it.
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Suggestions / Re: Transfer List
« on: June 20, 2021, 03:33:16 PM »
Still I do not agree as valgren as a gem but with 50mil most of the time overpriced as vos said.
It is normal for the manager to hope and ask for 50mil if another manager needs Valgren but that is not what the transfermarket is for.
Now it was done correct, the price was lowered.
But for this purpose there was the ‘available to buy’ market. Put a rider on it so other managers know, if I want him I can pay this amount or there is an option to negotiate.
It is normal for the manager to hope and ask for 50mil if another manager needs Valgren but that is not what the transfermarket is for.
Now it was done correct, the price was lowered.
But for this purpose there was the ‘available to buy’ market. Put a rider on it so other managers know, if I want him I can pay this amount or there is an option to negotiate.
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Suggestions / Re: Transfer List
« on: June 20, 2021, 08:26:02 AM »
Very nice rider. And number one tour rider but at the same time a good example of what is wrong with the transferlist.
50mil is an asking price is way to high in my opinion and giving a wrong idea to new managers that those prices are normal. And if you wait long enough someone will pay it. Obviously more managers thought 50mil is to much because he is sold for 35mil.
I did not follow it if valgren was on the transferlist for three days and then changed or that he was just there as an example and from the moment someone gave a nice offer the price changed.
50mil is an asking price is way to high in my opinion and giving a wrong idea to new managers that those prices are normal. And if you wait long enough someone will pay it. Obviously more managers thought 50mil is to much because he is sold for 35mil.
I did not follow it if valgren was on the transferlist for three days and then changed or that he was just there as an example and from the moment someone gave a nice offer the price changed.
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Suggestions / Re: [English] - Suggestions
« on: June 08, 2021, 01:03:45 PM »Tactical winners obviously. Variable talent makes you to be checking the talent of your riders season after season to adjust the training to the best possible way. Not once on the first week of training and then plan the training ahead for the rest of the riders life.
What I don't get is why would you like to remove talent altogether. Wouldn't that make the game more simple and maybe boring?
So what is the reason for variable talent now? Some say it is to make the game less predictable, but how many riders are really trained so that they end up like they are "predicted". This is already hard enough for most managers with fixed talents, so why add another layer of difficulty?
In my opinion, the biggest advantage is to reduce the gap between experienced mánagers and new ones. The usual pull of Young riders, where we sell the low talented to non experienced managers will be less dramátic for them.
In my opinion is quite the opposite.
Anyone that wants to learn how to compute the talent can learn in 30 minutes. Is VERY basic maths. So, computing the talent is not the problem if you are really interested (I speak for myself, I did some tools the very first weeks I found the game interesting).
However, building a squad that shares the trainning through different years is something that is really difficult for beginners. It is not easy to know what a rider needs to train in every category and, furthermore, it is impossible to know what level do they need to achieve to win in first division.
Therefore, the difficulty now is not gonna be to know the talent of your rider, it is gonna be to be able to modify EVERY SEASON the global training of the team so that you can maximize the global benefit.
This is gonna be very difficult for the beginners, and for sure, and edge for the manager that pay more atention.
However, I see a big problem here. To handle a full squad during 5 seasons with variable talent will be very time demanding and difficult. My guess is that a big part of the managers will focus, even more, in a small amount of riders and sell (again, even more than nowadays) most of the others.
In my opinion, something that would really benefit the gane would be to include something like LOYALTY.
I would need to thing about the numbers, but something straithforward that comes to my mind is to add 0,2 to each ability for every season that a rider is in your team. However, without days in age the implementation seems impossible.
Fun thought about the loyalty.
About the variable training. Will it have that much influence on the training schedule? When a rider is 19 you determine the talent. If it is low, we will still fire them or sell them. If it is high there might be a chance the talent will decline but it will still be a good rider and your schedule will stay the same in general. The biggest value of the variable talent is a wider amount of top riders. At this moment there is a 30% training difference between talent 0 and 5, which is huge and those riders always ended up in the teams with the big money. Hopefully now less with the spiderweb gone. Without the spider you can buy a very good rider but with talent 0. With a variable talent schedule he might get better.
So the variable talent will change you opinion on firing riders or which one to buy. More riders will have te benefit of the doubt. But influence on your training schedule I can not imagine it will be that important. In my opinion
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Suggestions / Re: [English] - Suggestions
« on: June 04, 2021, 11:38:51 PM »
One more question about implementation.
Most managers are falling about the change in the youth and promote the aging process. But how would you implement this?
Just say starting from next season your rider might decrease in skill starting from the age of 31. I understand between the age of 24 and 31 there is no decrease at all. Only a small increase by training. BUT at the moment riders start decreasing from the moment they turn 25 (just a little but it is there). So a rider of the age of 29 at this moment will stop decreasing from the age of 30 and might decrease again from the age of 31. While a rider who will turn 25 had no decrease at all. So riders turning of age just before the implementation will have a TRIPLE advantage. They had less decrease of skill compared to older riders AND they had no possible change in talent compared to younger riders AND they were drafted in a time the spiderweb was active so lots of high talent riders.
I do not care about this because I will not be competitive for the next 6-7 seasons and I have a generation of 20 year olds at the moment (spiderweb was removed just after). But it might have a big influence to the top of division 1a during the first 5-6 seasons.
So maybe it might be good to do these chances in fases. For example. Implement them both with the exception of the aging process might happen around 27/28 for the first couple of seasons. From the moment the first riders from the new system turn 26/27 adjust the aging factor to 30/31. Some riders might be lucky and had no aging decrease but not all of them
Most managers are falling about the change in the youth and promote the aging process. But how would you implement this?
Just say starting from next season your rider might decrease in skill starting from the age of 31. I understand between the age of 24 and 31 there is no decrease at all. Only a small increase by training. BUT at the moment riders start decreasing from the moment they turn 25 (just a little but it is there). So a rider of the age of 29 at this moment will stop decreasing from the age of 30 and might decrease again from the age of 31. While a rider who will turn 25 had no decrease at all. So riders turning of age just before the implementation will have a TRIPLE advantage. They had less decrease of skill compared to older riders AND they had no possible change in talent compared to younger riders AND they were drafted in a time the spiderweb was active so lots of high talent riders.
I do not care about this because I will not be competitive for the next 6-7 seasons and I have a generation of 20 year olds at the moment (spiderweb was removed just after). But it might have a big influence to the top of division 1a during the first 5-6 seasons.
So maybe it might be good to do these chances in fases. For example. Implement them both with the exception of the aging process might happen around 27/28 for the first couple of seasons. From the moment the first riders from the new system turn 26/27 adjust the aging factor to 30/31. Some riders might be lucky and had no aging decrease but not all of them
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Suggestions / Re: [English] - Suggestions
« on: June 04, 2021, 05:18:44 PM »Hi Oska,
I really like the updates of the training camp icons and the 2 new WC races! This will make starting a flat-cobbles or sprint-hills generation a lot more intereseting and will bring a bit more balance in the game.
I'm doubtful about the variable talent for 2 reasons:
- It will create a big imbalance in favour of 24+ aged riders who have trained for lots of season with talent 5 and this effect will be there for quite a few seasons.
- I'm a numbers guy and I like this game because it pays off to plan ahead for quite a long time. This will disappear with the variable talent and it will be more of a casino game, which I don't really like.
Thanks for thinking about the future of the game and implementing changes though, even when I don't like all of them!
Edit: Like other managers point out below, the variable talent and variable age at which riders start to drop are changes big enough to need time to come into effect. I would suggest introducing both of them with the 19 yr olds that come into play next season when it is decided these changes are final.
A possibilty could be to wait until that current 19 yo riders are 31. After that, "close" this version of cff and start a new cff with all the suggested modifications.
This would be the more fair way for everybody. The drawback is that this would be in 500 days or so.
How would waiting be more fair?
In ten seasons people will keep playing and there will always be someone who starts a new generation.
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Suggestions / Re: [English] - Suggestions
« on: June 04, 2021, 02:36:39 PM »
Like Franky said.
We are humans and we do not like change. Change means we need to learn something new. Give a change some seasons a chance, if not liked change it back. Ok maybe some unfair competition but even more satisfying if your rider ends up as a good rider.
No one mentioned it but I hope if there are changes they are well explained and just implemented with a total reset of the game.
We are humans and we do not like change. Change means we need to learn something new. Give a change some seasons a chance, if not liked change it back. Ok maybe some unfair competition but even more satisfying if your rider ends up as a good rider.
No one mentioned it but I hope if there are changes they are well explained and just implemented with a total reset of the game.
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General / Re: WCS 2021
« on: May 27, 2021, 06:40:10 AM »
If would do most abandons I would win I think. What is happening?
With evenepoel leaving I just have 6 riders left. And I did not pick Bernal
With evenepoel leaving I just have 6 riders left. And I did not pick Bernal
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General Forum / Re: For Sale
« on: May 23, 2021, 08:29:47 AM »
Jacobs came in the game as one star on cobbles.
Sébastien Jacobs Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 856
Conditie : 57 Sprinten : 15 Klimmen : 10
Vlak : 58 Kasseien : 59 Techniek : 47
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 63 Explosiviteit : 34
Tijdrijden : 24 Knechten : 54 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 2 Geracet : 0
Borremans received his first star today
Stéphane Borremans Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 838
Conditie : 15 Sprinten : 35 Klimmen : 36
Vlak : 43 Kasseien : 60 Techniek : 70
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 68 Explosiviteit : 64
Tijdrijden : 9 Knechten : 6 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 1 Geracet : 0
Sébastien Jacobs Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 856
Conditie : 57 Sprinten : 15 Klimmen : 10
Vlak : 58 Kasseien : 59 Techniek : 47
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 63 Explosiviteit : 34
Tijdrijden : 24 Knechten : 54 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 2 Geracet : 0
Borremans received his first star today
Stéphane Borremans Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 838
Conditie : 15 Sprinten : 35 Klimmen : 36
Vlak : 43 Kasseien : 60 Techniek : 70
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 68 Explosiviteit : 64
Tijdrijden : 9 Knechten : 6 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 1 Geracet : 0
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Algemeen / Re: Nieuwe rakkers
« on: May 23, 2021, 08:29:27 AM »
Jacobs came in the game as one star on cobbles.
Sébastien Jacobs Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 856
Conditie : 57 Sprinten : 15 Klimmen : 10
Vlak : 58 Kasseien : 59 Techniek : 47
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 63 Explosiviteit : 34
Tijdrijden : 24 Knechten : 54 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 2 Geracet : 0
Borremans received his first star today
Stéphane Borremans Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 838
Conditie : 15 Sprinten : 35 Klimmen : 36
Vlak : 43 Kasseien : 60 Techniek : 70
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 68 Explosiviteit : 64
Tijdrijden : 9 Knechten : 6 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 1 Geracet : 0
Sébastien Jacobs Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 856
Conditie : 57 Sprinten : 15 Klimmen : 10
Vlak : 58 Kasseien : 59 Techniek : 47
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 63 Explosiviteit : 34
Tijdrijden : 24 Knechten : 54 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 2 Geracet : 0
Borremans received his first star today
Stéphane Borremans Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 838
Conditie : 15 Sprinten : 35 Klimmen : 36
Vlak : 43 Kasseien : 60 Techniek : 70
Dalen : 32 Heuvels : 68 Explosiviteit : 64
Tijdrijden : 9 Knechten : 6 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 1 Geracet : 0
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General Forum / Re: For Sale
« on: May 18, 2021, 12:19:48 PM »
A very nice hillsprinter
Sammy Robert Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 844
Conditie : 50 Sprinten : 56 Klimmen : 23
Vlak : 24 Kasseien : 13 Techniek : 62
Dalen : 4 Heuvels : 69 Explosiviteit : 56
Tijdrijden : 12 Knechten : 70 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 3 Geracet : 0
And a pure hiller
Geoffrey Schoeters Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 802
Conditie : 16 Sprinten : 16 Klimmen : 8
Vlak : 13 Kasseien : 45 Techniek : 71
Dalen : 65 Heuvels : 62 Explosiviteit : 58
Tijdrijden : 7 Knechten : 37 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 2 Geracet : 0
Sammy Robert Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 844
Conditie : 50 Sprinten : 56 Klimmen : 23
Vlak : 24 Kasseien : 13 Techniek : 62
Dalen : 4 Heuvels : 69 Explosiviteit : 56
Tijdrijden : 12 Knechten : 70 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 3 Geracet : 0
And a pure hiller
Geoffrey Schoeters Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 802
Conditie : 16 Sprinten : 16 Klimmen : 8
Vlak : 13 Kasseien : 45 Techniek : 71
Dalen : 65 Heuvels : 62 Explosiviteit : 58
Tijdrijden : 7 Knechten : 37 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 2 Geracet : 0
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Algemeen / Re: Nieuwe rakkers
« on: May 17, 2021, 10:55:10 PM »
Hier is mijn eerste van het seizoen
Geoffrey Schoeters Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 802
Conditie : 16 Sprinten : 16 Klimmen : 8
Vlak : 13 Kasseien : 45 Techniek : 71
Dalen : 65 Heuvels : 61 Explosiviteit : 58
Tijdrijden : 7 Knechten : 37 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 3 Geracet : 0
Geoffrey Schoeters Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 802
Conditie : 16 Sprinten : 16 Klimmen : 8
Vlak : 13 Kasseien : 45 Techniek : 71
Dalen : 65 Heuvels : 61 Explosiviteit : 58
Tijdrijden : 7 Knechten : 37 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : 1 Resterende dagen : 3 Geracet : 0
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Algemeen / Re: Nieuwe rakkers
« on: May 17, 2021, 10:53:55 PM »1e pull van het nieuwe seizoen
Direct met 2 sterren op klim
Patrick Verstappen Leeftijd : 19 Salaris : 826
Conditie : 64 Sprinten : 3 Klimmen : 69
Vlak : 22 Kasseien : 2 Techniek : 53
Dalen : 68 Heuvels : 66 Explosiviteit : 39
Tijdrijden : 10 Knechten : 25 Ervaring : 0
Prijs : Resterende dagen : Geracet : 0
Waarom zit jij Nederlandser te pullen?
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Nationaal Team / Re: NT Belgie
« on: May 17, 2021, 10:52:20 PM »Bedankt voor de herverkiezing!
Met 3 stemmen voor beide kandidaten was het dus heel nipt. Op basis van mijn hogere ranking ben ik dus de BC.
Hopelijk kunnen we door op het niveau van vorig seizoen. Er komen ook minimum 1 keer lijstjes op het forum.
Volgens mij maakt Rankin daar niets uit hoor. Is het gewoon random. Of is dat veranderd?