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Title: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 25, 2022, 05:34:18 AM
Awaiting posts by Vos et al.

I will post periodically, as well, to document my Div 1 journey.  :o
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 25, 2022, 01:21:52 PM
A new season has started !  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/HECclxm.jpeg)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 25, 2022, 01:51:46 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/27707822768c9c9c00789bdb852cbeae.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

The today bought Muntendam ( 1½ M ) gets the backnumber that ends on 1.
He is a silver "heavy"hills-sprinter ( silver 9 stars hill-sprint + silver 9 stars flat-hills ) and maybe he can surprise in this little tour.
despite no top form and a health issue in all 5 stages.

But the main goal of my whole team in the Tour Down Under = to get in top form.
Although I expect that Meijer scores stage points. He should be confident after his recent 6º place in the World Championship race.
60% of this TDU selection is Dutch, and just like Muntendam, also Hartlooper makes his debut for my team, who was bought 6 days ago.

11 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Muntendam ( 32 ), silver "heavy"hills-sprinter
12 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Meijer ( 30 ), hills
13 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Granberg ( 31 ), BinckBankTour winner of previous season 23
14 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Taglioni ( 30 ), cobblehills
15 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Hartlooper ( 31 ), cobblehills

TDU stage 1 ;
29º  Muntendam
The first points of this season. :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 26, 2022, 03:33:35 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/27707822768c9c9c00789bdb852cbeae.png)   (https://cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=350;type=avatar)selection Lanihuli Cycling

(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Vien ( 25 ), silver hills-sprinter
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) Lyka ( 30 ), hills-climber
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Pensec ( 30 ), hills-sprinter
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Haan ( 31 ), Tour rider
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/suiza.jpg) Semon ( 32 ), hills

TDU stage 1 ;  FFFFhF
13º  Pensec
Was relieved to earn points in the first race of the season, and we hope we will earn enough by the end of S24 to be in the top 30 of Div 1.   :-\

TDU stage 2 ;  MHHHH
24º  Lyka
30º Haan

Lyka rode as a helper but was too fast for captain Haan, who, thankfully, was able to get some help from hills rider Semon in S2, S3, and S4.   It remains to be seen if Haan, a tour rider, can limit his time losses in the two coming hills races, and if he cannot hang on in the FFFFH race  then we will commit to our Hills rider in the HHHHH stage and let Haan ride free.   

(Thanks, Vos, for the post template)  8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 26, 2022, 12:26:34 PM
yw / mp  :)

TDU stage 2, MHHHH ( 2x wind ) ;
93º  Muntendam  1:48"
Clearly a tactical failure, because teamcaptain Muntendam was isolated the whole race.
I hoped and expected he would have had help in a few sections, but his teammates were simply not good enough.
With one exception, and that is Meijer who tried to score points in a free role.
He came close, but failed too ; 34º in the same time as the nr 30º. In retrospective ; Meijer should have been the helper.

TDU stage 3, FFFFH ;
8º  Muntendam  0:08"
Excellent result, despite a form problem and a health issue. And thanks to Hartlooper who did a great helper's job.

GC after 3 stages = 3º  Muntendam  0:39" --> very unexpected, but the final TT stage will be decisive, so I assume he drops.


Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 26, 2022, 08:11:53 PM
TDU stage 3, FFFFH ;
61º  Pensec  0:21"
117º  Haan  0:43"
Disappointing result for captain Haan, who needed another EP in S1 to make it into 148-rider lead group.   The better strategy would have been to have Haan ride free and put the team behind Semon, a strong hills-with-flat guy.

TDU stage 4, HHHHH ;
23º  Semon  0:20"
108º  Haan  1:02"
Semon, our best hills rider, was designated as captain for this race.  I hoped he'd do better, and with top form he might have.  In any case, we'll take the points.   Meanwhile, Haan, our best GC hope, rode free and likely would have shaved 17 secs if I had made him captain. 

GC after 4 stages = 25º  Haan  2:22" --> as mentioned by Vos, the final TT stage will be decisive, so I hope Haan, who has tour rider TT skills, will move up to earn some GC points, because half of the current top 20 in GC are TT-deprived.  I look forward to seeing the shake-down.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 26, 2022, 11:51:59 PM
TDU stage 4, hills ;
27º  Muntendam   0:20"
Still 3ºGC, and "just" 88 km time trial left in this TDU.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 27, 2022, 08:03:53 AM
TDU stage 5, Flat TT (88 km) *** stamina!;
36º  Haan   2:36"

Haan's TT effort got him a boost of 16 positions, so he ended up 9th GC @ 2:25   :D

The podium was composed of three hills-sprinters (who also can TT)

1. Paul Simon, Elgrand
2. Rafael Angel Muñoz, FaltososDeChigre  @ :55
3. Jimmy Blankenstein, Mlb, @ 1:08


Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 27, 2022, 05:37:05 PM
TDU stage 5, TT ;
71º  Muntendam   3:51"

Tour Down Under, final GC ;
  Muntendam   1:54"  8)
Much and much better than I expected before this TDU.
Great to see that my new buy of this season does so very well. Even despite no topform, a health issue, and no perfect tactics.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 27, 2022, 08:52:51 PM
TDU stage 5, TT ;
71º  Muntendam   3:51"

Tour Down Under, final GC ;
  Muntendam   1:54"  8)
Much and much better than I expected before this TDU.
Great to see that my new buy of this season does so very well. Even despite no topform, a health issue, and no perfect tactics.

He was a good buy for 1.505m.   As I recall, seeing his potential for the TDU, I put in a bid of 1.5m but you obviously beat me to him.   Good job and congrats on the GC result with Muntendam.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 27, 2022, 11:56:23 PM
(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/omloop.jpg)

I will admit that the alarm bells went off when the team was dropped in S1, especially when I noted three of the race favorites (Spang, Ceuppens, and super domestique Einpalu) were in the lead group of 21.   That lead group proved to be decisive, with 15 of the 21 ending up in the point-scoring top 30. Ultimately, only two riders among the dropped masses were able to battle their way into the top 10, Simon Aasheim (FaltososDeChigre) in 6th and my OG Luke Rose in 9th.

Congrats to the podium winners, who were

(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/gold.jpg) Phillip Spang, 31, (Codex)
(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/silver.jpg) Pedro Francisco Malagon, 24, (Quickstepbronx)
(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/bronce.jpg) Charlie Ceuppens, 32, (MarquinaTeam)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 28, 2022, 12:17:58 AM
He was a good buy for 1.505m.   As I recall, seeing his potential for the TDU, I put in a bid of 1.5m but you obviously beat me to him.   Good job and congrats on the GC result with Muntendam.
Thanks.
And fun to read that my extra 5k was of big value in the bidding war.  :)

You too congratulations with your good start in 1A, for example 9º TDU and 9º OHN.
If you keep it up like this, no worries at all that your season goal will be achieved.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 28, 2022, 06:04:45 AM
(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/strade.jpg)

No alarm bells in this sun-soaked rendering of Strade Bianche. OG Luke Rose, who is blessed with the (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg) icon, also had all the help he needed from three good domestiques, but just missed out on the podium, finishing 4th @ :09.

Congrats to the podium winners, who were

(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/gold.jpg) Carlos Javier Viña, 30, (Mlb), who won this race for the third time in a row, and for the fifth time in his career.   Awesome.
(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/silver.jpg) Simon Aasheim, 31, (FaltososDeChigre), who earned his first podium and has finished in the top ten of this race for the 4th straight year.
(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/bronce.jpg) Zoltan Forrer, 24, (MarquinaTeam), the young gun, who made his first of what likely will be other podium finishes.

We now move on to Paris Nice, where I have entered another OG, Yvo VanPaassen, 33, to see if he still has the legs to do anything on the GC.  He has yet to reach top form, so the results might be substandard.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 28, 2022, 08:48:53 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/df924f77f10929a2904cfb2e4b350056.png)   (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

VanPaassen is our is GC hope, and I am anxious to see how he will do and how I will do, tactics-wise.
Campos, a tour rider from Colombia, will provide help in all stages.
Pensec will be the helper in sprint stages 1 and 3.
Green will help in stages 1, 2, & 3.
Perry will be the climbs-helper in mountain stages 4 & 5.

191 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) VanPaassen ( 33 ), tour
192 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colombia.jpg) Campos ( 31 ), tour
193 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Perry ( 31 ), climb
194 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Green ( 34 ), cobbles/sprint help
195 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Pensec ( 30 ), hill-sprint

(Merci beaucoup to Vos for the post template).   8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 28, 2022, 02:56:08 PM
Omloop het Nieuwsblad ;
27º  Taglioni
Despite good help in the first 3 sections, not a good result. I thought that Taglioni would do much better.
He did not even got a dissapointment icon in s5, so he was probably not so good as I expected.

Strade Bianche ;
17º  Hartlooper 
Unfortunately Taglioni was not good enough to help in s4, but still a good result of the teamcaptain.


(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/df924f77f10929a2904cfb2e4b350056.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

Two Russians in this selection, who could not ride under the Russian flag.
Big thanks to the cycling federations of Uganda and Algeria, who gave both the license to ride for my team in Paris Nice.

New buy Yakovlev has as goal to ride in form, and he will be used as helper.
Babich was bought 2 weeks ago for 123k, and perhaps I even overpaid for him. Despite this, he might be the big surprise in this little tour.
But maybe I estimate this wrong because probably it never happened before that a cheap bronze tour cyclist scored GC points in PN.
In fact, he has not even a bronze sprint icon, and there are 2 sprint stages.
And he has just a bronze cobble icon and a silver climb icon. And the first 3 stages not in topform.

In case the "Babich experiment" fails, there is an excellent back-up plan to go for Beckham as teamcaptain in the 2 mountain stages.

As last one Granberg is selected, to give the doubtfull experiment a better chance of success.

181 (https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/flags/small/us.png) Beckham ( 28 ), climb
182 (https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/flags/small/ug.png) Babich ( 27 ), bronze tour
183 (https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/flags/small/hu.png) Szõnyi ( 28 ), climb
184 (https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/flags/small/dz.png) Yakovlev ( 32 ), silver tour
185 (https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/flags/small/no.png) Granberg ( 31 ), helper ( bronze flat-sprint & bronze flat-cobble )

Good luck everyone ! :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 30, 2022, 03:18:52 AM
PN stage 1, Flat sprint 199k ;
60º  Pensec   :54"
96º  VanPaassen   1:58"

Lots of bad news in this race.  We were gapped from the get-go, and poor tactics led to a loss of points from our sprinter and loss of significant time by our OG captain.

PN stage 2, CFFCC 187k ;
7º  Green   :08"
107º  VanPaassen   2:47"

Green rode free and scored some always-valuable points.  Meanwhile, a disappointing result for VP, who at least got help in every section from Pensec, the hills-sprinter.

PN stage 3, FFFHF 213k ;
41º  Pensec   :35"
100º  VanPaassen   1:35"

Poor tactics led to a drop in S1 and thus a waste of Pensec, who was capable of scoring in this race.  Next up are the mountains, where hopefully brighter days are ahead, and where we will see the GC competition reveal itself.   At this point, Paris Nice appears to be Bikeos' Elton Fevola's  to win.   Any chance of VanPaassen getting a top 10 is gone.   Our hope is a Top 20 GC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 30, 2022, 12:15:21 PM
PN stage 1, sprint ( 2x wind ) ;
87º  Babich   1:58"
Very bad tactics because Babich was already isolated in s3.  :-[

PN stage 2, flat-cobble ( 1x wind ) ;
34º  Babich   0:56"
Granberg already failed as masterhelper in stage 1, and in stage 2 even a bigger failure as masterhelper,
because the teamcaptain was isolated from the start and had to ride this stage entirely solo.  :-[

PN stage 3, hill-sprint ;
107º  Babich   1:35"
Suddenly he already dropped in s3 out of the front peleton.
His 2 helpers did not realize this, and both stayed in the front, what caused that Babich had to ride the rest of the race solo.  :-[

# Due to 3 very bad tactical stages, the decision was made to switch of teamcaptain, and go for stage 4 victory with Beckham.
Although I had no clue how Babich was doing compared to the GC rivals. And Beckham was not even a favorite in stage 4.


PN stage 4, mountains ( 1x wind ) ;
2º  Beckham ( teamcaptain )  --> with mechanical breakdown in s1 & mechanical breakdown in s3.
65º  Babich ( free role )   2:17"  --> with mechanical breakdown in s4.  :(
A very unlucky race.
Unexpectedly helper Szõnyi dropped in downhill s2 and despite being one of the best CFF climbers, he never returned to his teamcaptain.
What is remarkable because Beckham had a slow pace due to 2 mechanical breakdowns.
At least back-up helper Yakovlev was still with his teamcaptain in s2, but the unfortunate Beckham was already isolated in s3.
He proved that he is amazing by making a jump to the s4 breakaway group of 11, and in s5 he finished solo as 2nd.

Beckham ( USA ) really hopes that this result is good enough to get a selection for the NT climb race of tomorrow.  ;)

Free role rider Babich was very unlucky in this race too.
Also an unexpected drop in downhill s2 and a mechanical breakdown in s4, what was a crucial moment that caused much time loss.

So far a very bad Paris-Nice to bronze tour cyclist Babich, who was underperforming in all 4 stages due to bad tactics and bad luck.
Despite this, and despite his free role in an important mountain stage, a surprisingly good GC place = 8º on  2:14"

The question remains ; "what if ......... ?"
Because Babich lost a lot of time unnecessary, probably almost the 2:14" he is behind now.
Too bad, it seems to me that with perfect tactics in all 4 stages ánd with a teamcaptain role in stage 4,
Babich could have competed for a historical, unique Paris-Nice victory as just bronze tour cyclist ( who was bought 2 weeks ago for 123k ).
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 30, 2022, 07:42:07 PM
PN stage 5 mountains ;
2º  Beckham ( teamcaptain )   0:00"
21º  Babich ( free role )   1:29"
29º  Szõnyi ( helper )

Unfortunately Szõnyi ( with Beckham in his wheel ) could not follow the brutal pace of TeamEuroscalt in s2.
In s2 a breakaway group of 5 = 1x JGMTeam and 4x TeamEuroscalt.

Beckham saw in s3 that his helper did not bring him closer, so he launched one his impressive famous jumps.
In s3 a breakaway group of 7 = 1x a too fast helper of ICSluj, 1x JGMTeam, 4x TeamEuroscalt ánd 1x SPORTLIFE.

In s4 Szõnyi used many energie to try to get to teamcaptain Beckham.
But he came 19 seconds short, because stage 4 winner Seeler attacked out of the front group with his teamcaptain in his wheel.
In s4 a breakaway group of 3 = 2x TeamEuroscalt and 1x SPORTLIFE.

In s5 it came down to a sprint-a-deux between Beckham en thé CFF climb legend Mikalsen.
Because the already 34yo Mikalsen had a s4 helper, he was fresher and more experienced, and outsmarted Beckham in the final sprint.

Paris Nice final GC ;
4º  Babich   1:30"  --> with bad luck, bad helpers tactics, and the 2 crucial mountain stages in free roles.
15º  Beckham   3:37"  --> very unexpected extra GC points with skills ; cobble= 13, hills= 16, sprint= 16.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on April 30, 2022, 07:54:29 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/1d29f44d0e03d78eff360ca0987b1b20.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

Beckham is the only one of this selection who is in topform, therefore he gets the backnumber that ends on 1.
Probably he will be the teamcaptain in stage 4, because I don't expect that one of my tour cyclists can ride a good GC result.
It is even doubtfull to me which tour cyclist is the most suited for this Tirreno. It is close, and I guess I still have to figure that out.

61 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) Beckham ( 28 ), climb
62 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Viñas ( 32 ), tour
63 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), tour
64 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Arnau ( 31 ), tour
65 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Lewis ( 25 ), climb

Good luck everyone !  :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on April 30, 2022, 10:13:42 PM

Paris Nice final GC ;
4º  Babich   1:30"  --> with bad luck, bad helpers tactics, and the 2 crucial mountain stages in free roles.
15º  Beckham   3:37"  --> very unexpected extra GC points with skills ; cobble= 13, hills= 16, sprint= 16.

Despite your "mistakes," great GC result for bronze tour rider Babich!  Also great results for Beckham, who definitely will be selected for the USA NT for Sunday's mountain race.   8)

Meanwhile, for my team in Paris Nice, the results were sobering (just 67 points earned) but educational.  I learned, for example, that my chosen tactics in every stage were poor, but I now have a better idea what I have to do tactically to get improved results (and possibly points!).   Thanks, Vos, for discussing your tactics and results.  I continue to learn from them.
       
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 01, 2022, 12:34:32 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/1d29f44d0e03d78eff360ca0987b1b20.png)   (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

Haan will be the designated GC captain and will be riding in top form after finishing a surprising 9th GC in the TDU.  VanPassen will be trying to overcome his dismay with his manager after a dismal Paris Nice.   Lyka and Campos are also in form and will provide help in the hills and mountains.  We are hoping for improvement after the Paris Nice disappointment/learning experience.

171 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Haan ( 31 ), tour
172 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) Lyka ( 30 ), hills/climb
173(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Campos ( 31 ), tour
174 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/ukrania.jpg) Karin ( 32 ), climb
175 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) VanPassen ( 33 ), tour
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 01, 2022, 03:35:48 AM
Thanks, Vos, for discussing your tactics and results.  I continue to learn from them.
You're welcome :)
Although I always try not to reveal my tactics on the forum, but I guess you are smart and experienced so you can "read between the lines".

Your selection ( also 3 tour cyclists = fun ) and team shirt looks very nice ! Good luck in the Tirreno, Kekipi !
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 01, 2022, 03:52:00 AM
It seems you want to confuse the peleton by riding with the same backnumbers as the famous SPORTLIFE.  8)

Ooops!  My faux pas.

I made the change in #s so there should be no confusion now.

And, I've given instructions to my team to mark any rider with a jersey # in the 60s.   :D

Good luck in the TA!
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 01, 2022, 08:41:54 AM
Tirreno stage 1, FFMHH ( (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg) ) ;

10º  Haan  :17"
17º  Lyka  :28"

Two or more flat sections before mountains or hills cause me angst, and Haan was fortunate to survive the flatlands prior to riding into the 6-man lead group in the Cat 2 Goraiolo climb in S3.  The plan was to have helpers Lyka and Karin attack in S4 (hills) but Karin was a victim of a lack of full form, so he lost time in the flats and could not make up the time in S3 so he could not not participate in the launch.  It seems like other teams had the same idea because a lead group of 19, which included Haan and Lyka, was formed at the conlcusion of the penultimate hills section.  Haan and Lyka still had enough energy to finish in the point-scoring top 30 for the stage.  One less EP in S4 for both might have netted an even better result.

Next up is a flat TT and then more angst is forthcoming for the FFFhFM stage 3.  :o 
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 01, 2022, 11:21:15 AM
Tirreno stage 1, flat-mountainhills ;
30º  Viñas ( teamcaptain )   0:40"
No risk at the start for my 3 tour cyclists, because they are not in top form.
What most likely was a waste of some energy because the s1 peleton was huge with 148 cyclists.
Beckham did a good helper's job in the flat sections and launched Viñas hard into s3.
So I could give Conti and Arnau free roles, just in case my teamcaptain choice appears to be wrong. Both finished on 0:46"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 01, 2022, 11:35:19 AM
and then more angst is forthcoming for the FFFhFM stage 3.  :o
Indeed, every chosen tactic will be a gamble in such a stage.
A drop somewhere on the flat is not wanted, and wasting energy on the flat is not wanted otherwise the 5 EP finish is not strong enough.
And maybe the 1x wind makes this stage more tricky.

Funny that you use the word "angst", I never knew this was an English word.
At first I thought you used a Dutch word in between, just like you use French words sometimes ( I can read and speak French, but this aside )
but I looked it up, and indeed, to my surprise "angst" is also an English word. This forum is educational ! :))
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Atalm93 on May 01, 2022, 05:38:52 PM
I did not now that Angst = Anxiety either.

Funny, because Angst is also the Norwegian word for Anxiety.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Aurora Australis on May 01, 2022, 10:19:33 PM
There's a slight difference, angst is used for a specific cause of anxiety, and doesn't refer to when it generates broader anxiety.
Btw, given that English is essentially a joining of Germanic, French & Latin words on a simplified language structure base, it's not surprising so many words are either the same or similar.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 01, 2022, 10:51:32 PM
Of course you are right about that it is not surprising that many words are either the same or similar.
But it is also surprising that I never heard of that "angst" is also an English word.
Given my background / education / and perhaps even more remarkable, a lot on Dutch tv is in English ( for sure more than 50% )
and I never heard this word in decades of watching tv.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 01, 2022, 11:15:39 PM
Tirreno stage 2, TT 17km ( 2x wind ) ;
45º   Arnau   1:49"
72º   Viñas   2:20"
97º   Conti   2:42"
Arnau is the current best ranked GC contender of my team ; 15º on 1:49"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 02, 2022, 03:10:00 AM
Tirreno stage 2, TT 17km ( 2x wind ) ;

43º   Yvo VanPaassen   1:47"
44º   Haan  1:47"
64º   Campos   2:11"

On the GC front, Haan is sitting 3rdº @ :16
VanPaassen is 22ndº @ 1:01 and
Campos is 26thº @ 1:08

Next up is the angst race.   :-\
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 02, 2022, 05:35:17 AM
Next up is the angst race.   :-\

And the angst was warranted!   >:(

Tirreno stage 3, FFFhFM ( 1x wind; Cloudy )

51º   Haan   1:13"
71º   VanPaassen  1:30"
74º   Campos   1:30"

I hope Vos will comment about what happened.  Sometimes I suppose it's true that fortune favors the brave.

I thought I was being brave with the tactics I chose, but, obviously and unfortunately, I was not brave enough.

The result was a loss of several places in the GC for Haan, who now sits 7th @ :51.

I suppose it could have been worse.

In any case, we shall move on and hope for better in the final two stages. 
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Rico on May 02, 2022, 09:43:33 AM
Well, it looks like Ophiuko made it a very hard race with Dusan Mattei, who is on top of the (flat)climb rankings. That caused all of the GC riders apart from Martin and of course his own Longva to lose contact with the front group in s1.

Azarov unfortunately was amongst the ones who lost time, but he still has chances to get a nice result out of this Tirreno.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 02, 2022, 10:59:13 AM
Indeed, what happened is that OphiukoCT made the race ( with 1x wind ) superhard in s1.
There even was a s1 break away group of just 16.
I have seen it before and I expected it,
so I tried to anticipate on such a brutal attack by using a lot of energy, but that was not even enough, it should have been even more.
The positive thing is that many GC rivals were behind in s1 because of the great tactical move by Ophiuko ( bravo ! :)) )

Tirreno stage 3, flat-climb ( 1x wind ) ;
26º  Beckham ( helper )
28º  Viñas ( teamcaptain )   0:56" 
Funny that Viñas finished with a lightbulb, according to me not justified due to s1, where he used a lot of energy but could not follow.
With a less energy start, he would have been in the 2nd group too, what was enormous with 139 cyclists. In retrospective, I wasted energy in s1.

Free roles Arnau and Conti finished just 6 seconds behind teamcaptain Viñas.
And I'm still not sure if my team captain choice is the right choice.
GC =
14º  Arnau   1:10"
21º  Viñas   1:29"
33º  Conti   2:03"
So far they are doing pretty well, considering that all 3 are not in top form ( in all stages of this Tirreno ).
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: ophiuko on May 02, 2022, 01:07:43 PM
The attack went great! ;D I was very lucky though that my team captain and helper could follow Mattei, others have told me their riders didn't follow despite using the same EPs.

It was a 2º of (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Longva on the stage, which moves him also 2º on the GC, 7'' after Pat Martin.

Let's see if the luck continues and he can make a double Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico win!
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 02, 2022, 01:38:44 PM
Próximo nuevo distincione :)) / Upcoming new achievement / Upcoming new milestone =

(https://i.imgur.com/FPXtlLW.jpeg) Sten Longva's trophy - Winner of Paris Nice and Tirreno Adriatico in the same season.

Good luck, Ophiuko !
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Atalm93 on May 02, 2022, 05:04:11 PM
Well, it looks like Ophiuko made it a very hard race with Dusan Mattei, who is on top of the (flat)climb rankings. That caused all of the GC riders apart from Martin and of course his own Longva to lose contact with the front group in s1.

Azarov unfortunately was amongst the ones who lost time, but he still has chances to get a nice result out of this Tirreno.

This is not entirely correct. Martin dropped in S1 too. I knew it was a risk of this happening, so I had secured myself a "safe-switch" in S3. Either attack or return depending on being in front or behind.  8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 02, 2022, 10:07:11 PM
Tirreno, stage 4, MMFFM ;
5º  Beckham ( teamcaptain )  0:00"
Very good result thanks to an excellent helper's job of the 25yo Lewis.

My 3 free role tour cyclists finished on 2:07" what is not good.
Arnau was unlucky to finish as first of a group, and Conti had a mechanical breakdown in the crucial s5 climb.
All 3 are now out of the top 20 GC.
The goal in stage 5 is to try to get Viñas into the top 20 GC, what might be difficult, not in topform and currently 35º GC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 02, 2022, 11:35:48 PM
Tirreno, stage 4, MMFFM ;
25º  Haan ( captain )  0:32"  with a (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/bombilla.png) (definitely relieves my angst when I get one of these)  8)
28º  VanPaassen (free) 0:40"

Haan remained 7th GC @ 1:07"
In a surprise, OG VanPaassen moved up to 18th GC @ 2:17"

We will see how we do in the final HHHHH race.   The hope is a top 5 GC for Haan (and also hoping I don't blow it so that he drops out of the top 10).    Also, OG VanPaassen will ride free to try and hold on to his place in the GC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 03, 2022, 07:38:04 AM
Tirreno, stage 5, HHHHH ;
47º  Haan ( captain )  0:47"
130º  VanPaassen (free) 2:01"

Haan got good help from Hills-Climber Lyka.   The result was a rise of two places in the GC, so 5th @ 0:59" for Haan. 
VanPaassen did not like the hills so well so he dropped to 22nd GC @ 3:23"

After a disastrous Paris-Nice, it was good to get some GC points.

Next up is Milano Sanremo, where we will see what we can do with Pensec as captain.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: ophiuko on May 03, 2022, 10:39:39 AM
Próximo nuevo distincione :)) / Upcoming new achievement / Upcoming new milestone =

(https://i.imgur.com/FPXtlLW.jpeg) Sten Longva's trophy - Winner of Paris Nice and Tirreno Adriatico in the same season.

Good luck, Ophiuko !

Indeed!  ;D Although that's impossible in real cycling. Here is the winner:

Sten Longva   Edad : 29   Sueldo : 2427
Resistencia : 84   Sprint : 58   Montaña : 97
LLano : 82   Pavés : 42   Tecnica : 79
Descenso : 84   Colinas : 88   Agresividad : 63
Crono : 46   TraEqui : 28   Experiencia : 83

I'm very happy that he could manage to win two very different races.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 03, 2022, 01:15:31 PM
Congratulations Ophiuko, well done x2  ! !  8)  8)

In my team no points in stage 5 (as expected) and no GC points.
Final GC Tirreno ;
25º  Arnau   3:38"   ( 4x free roles )
27º  Viñas   3:45"   ( 3x teamcaptain roles, 1x free role )
It is clear that I made the wrong teamcaptain choice in 3 stages. Arnau could have scored a few GC points as teamcaptain.

Only 117 points scored by SPORTLIFE in this Tirreno, what is a very low number.
But the goal is achieved to get Viñas, Arnau, Conti and Lewis in topform.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 03, 2022, 06:43:56 PM

Sten Longva   Edad : 29   Sueldo : 2427
Resistencia : 84   Sprint : 58   Montaña : 97
LLano : 82   Pavés : 42   Tecnica : 79
Descenso : 84   Colinas : 88   Agresividad : 63
Crono : 46   TraEqui : 28   Experiencia : 83

I'm very happy that he could manage to win two very different races.

Congrats, ophiuko.   I also appreciate seeing the #s for Longva.   8)   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 04, 2022, 07:03:28 AM
Milano-Sanremo ;

22º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Pensec  0:00"
I was nervous about being dropped in s1 and/or s2.  Was relieved that 25 year old Vien, a flat-hiller with some sprint skills, was able to help not only in the first two sections, but thru s4.  :D

E3 Harelbeke ;

5º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Rose 0:00" (captain)
20º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Dalen 0:26" (free)
30º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Tajan 0:34" (helper)

An excellent result, especially with free-riding Dalen and one of the helpers being able to score.

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/8abb6ca97e11114a4e4395f49de88023.png)   (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

We will be taking a risk with Queiros as our GC guy because he is not in top form.  But he is just back from a training camp at Tenerife, so the hope is the work he did there will serve him well in the two mountain stages in this small tour. 

101 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/portugal.jpg) Queiros ( 33 ), tour
102 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colombia.jpg) Campos ( 31 ), tour
103 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Perry ( 30 ), climb
104 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/dinamarca.jpg) Hummelsby ( 33 ), cobbles
105 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Pensec ( 30 ), sprint/hills
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 04, 2022, 10:44:47 AM
Milano-Sanremo ;
20º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Muntendam  0:00"
In theory this could have been a much better result, but no risk with a not-prepared cyclist, incl. bad team director.
Granberg did an excellent job by being the important s4 helper.

E3 Harelbeke ;
No SPORTLIFE contenders to compete for points, this race was just to gain xp and to get in form.


(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/8abb6ca97e11114a4e4395f49de88023.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

There were some issues with the c.f. of Uganda. The solution is that Babich is now riding under license of the Laos cycling federation.
Babich is the undisputed teamcaptain of this selection, because he tries to get a top GC result despite his just bronze tour icon.
In contrast to Paris-Nice where he had 2 free roles and in the other 3 stages almost no help of teammates due to bad helpers tactics,
now Babich will get the leader role in all stages and should have excellent support.

141 (https://i.imgur.com/TAXjTmB.png) Babich ( 27 ), bronze tour
142 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) Beckham ( 28 ), climb
143 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), tour
144 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Granberg ( 31 ), hill-cobble-sprint
145 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Muntendam ( 32 ), hill-sprint
Thanks Kekipi, plagiarism is easier. :)
Good luck in Catalunya everyone !
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 04, 2022, 11:04:27 AM
Thanks Kekipi, plagiarism is easier. :)

Thanks and agreed, Vos.   I plagiarized your post from Season 23.   8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 04, 2022, 10:53:01 PM
Catalunya, mountain stage 1 FMFMM ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg) ) ;

15º  Queiros ( captain )  0:36"
24º  Perry ( helper )  0:45"
67º  Campos ( helper )  1:48"

A decent result (always grateful to score points!) thanks to a good helper's job of Perry. 8)

An additional EP in S4 (and one less in S5) might have yielded better results for Queiros and Perry.

Campos would have done better riding free, but I enlisted him as a helper just in case I got Perry's tactics wrong.

Next up is the FCCCF stage.  It will be interesting to see who emerges as the GC contenders  after this one.  Our hope is that Queiros will be among them.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 04, 2022, 11:52:30 PM
Catalunya, stage 1 FMFMM ;
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/montanaplata.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/8estrellas.jpg)  Babich ( teamcaptain )   0:09"
5º  Beckham ( masterhelper )   0:18"
Thanks to genius"no guts no glory"tactics of not-favorite Beckham and 8-star climber Babich, these incredible and maqnificent results !  8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 05, 2022, 10:13:21 AM
Catalunya, flat/cobbles stage 2 FCCCF ( (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg) (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg) ) ;

14º  Hummelsby ( free )  0:29"
75º  Queiros ( captain )  1:57"

We were hoping to place higher for both Hummelsby and Queiros.  Both were riding with less than top form, which surely had an impact.   If in top form, Hummelsby likely would have been top 10, and Queiros likely would have finished @ 1:29.     

For the GC, Queiros sits in 12th @ 1:28. 

We will see how things go in the third stage, a 117 km hills-sprint (FHFFF) from Vielha e Mijaran to Torrefarrera.  Race Director Lenny Ryan (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg), who has high marks for motivation, one-day races, and small tours (but not so high for team spirit), has ordered all hands on deck in support of Queiros.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 05, 2022, 10:52:47 AM
Catalunya stage 2, cobble-sprint ( 2x wind ) ;
30º  Granberg ( helper )   1:00"
39º  Babich ( teamcaptain )   1:29"
After a great start of the Babich-Granberg combo, it went already wrong in s2 where unexpectedly Granberg was too fast.
Granberg kept on riding one group before Babich till the finish line.
Too bad, with better (or more lucky-)tactics Babich would not be isolated, and would not have an unnecessary loss of 0:29"

Babich is now 2ºGC on 0:32" of the Australian leader Fevola ( 29, Bikeos ), the Silver Bike winner and the Catalunya title defender.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 05, 2022, 07:33:55 PM
Catalunya, hill/sprint stage 3 FHFFF ( (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg) (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg) ) ;

30º  Pensec ( helper )  0:00"
39º  Queiros ( captain )  0:00"

Pensec did his job wonderfully and ferried Queiros to the 40-rider bunch sprint in S5, where El Capitan was able to hang on to finish with the same time as stage winner Sysmans of Rekutxuteam.

For the GC, Queiros moved up eight places to 4th @ 0:55".

Next up is an angst stage, FFFFM, where tactical gambits in the flat sections are almost certain.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 05, 2022, 11:47:23 PM
Catalunya stage 3, hill-sprint ( 1x wind ) ;
22º  Muntendam ( free role )   
104º  Babich ( teamcaptain )   1:35"
A very bad race, because Granberg and Conti should have been very good helpers, but teamcaptain Babich was isolated the whole race.
Babich dropped in the GC to 8º on 1:35"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 06, 2022, 06:43:08 AM
Catalunya, stage 4 FFFFM ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)  ) ;

23º  Queiros ( captain )  0:46"

I had Queiros use 11 EPs for this one.  I dared not use any fewer for fear of more significant time loss.   

For the GC, despite losing 14 seconds, Queiros moved up one place to 3rd @ 1:09".

In tomorrow's final flat sprint stage, he will be hard pressed to overtake GC 2nd place Kok (Captain Orange) who is @ 0:49"

And, short of a disaster, mechanical or tactical, Elton Fevola (Bikeos) will defend his Volta Catalunya title.  8)

We too hope to avoid disaster and have Queiros earn the first-ever D1 podium place for Lanihuli Cycling.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 06, 2022, 09:19:18 AM
Catalunya stage 4, flat-climb ;
19º  Babich   0:39"   (  --> to Kekipi ; in a many 9 EP tactic to be extra "safe" in this windless stage  )
Beckham did a good job as helper, and Babich moved up 2 places, now 6ºGC on 1:42"

But this little tour is overshadowed by the biggest mistake I ever made in CFF ;
I forgot to send 4 cyclists on TC period ROM + EF + GIRO.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
This even was my main tactical move in this season.
Well, at least the 1A championship was not at stake, otherwise such a gigantic mistake for sure messed it up.
Now it just messes up my season schedule of my team, I guess I have to puzzle again.
Certainly one big change ;
my Romandie-selection would have been my strongest selection this season, and for sure now not the case anymore.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 06, 2022, 07:18:37 PM
Catalunya stage 5, sprint ( storm ) ;
82º  Babich   1:44"
Muntendam did an excellent job and got 5x the hands icon. Babich had a mechanical breakdown in s5, probably without consequenses.

Volta a Catalunya, final GC ;
6º  Babich   2:28"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 06, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
Catalunya stage 4, flat-climb ;
19º  Babich   0:39"   (  --> to Kekipi ; in a many 9 EP tactic to be extra "safe" in this windless stage  )

Just nine?  Wow, thanks for the tip.   I'm thinking the same EP output would be considered safe for a FFFFF race, as well.

But this little tour is overshadowed by the biggest mistake I ever made in CFF ;
I forgot to send 4 cyclists on TC period ROM + EF + GIRO.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
This even was my main tactical move in this season.
Well, at least the 1A championship was not at stake, otherwise such a gigantic mistake for sure messed it up.
Now it just messes up my season schedule of my team, I guess I have to puzzle again.
Certainly one big change ;
my Romandie-selection would have been my strongest selection this season, and for sure now not the case anymore.

Sorry to hear about the miscue.   Got me thinking that there should be an award for teams in D1 which make the top ten in the final standings without the use of training camps. It'd be like climbing Everest without the use of supplemental oxygen.  With a posse of superior riders (or maybe just one or two), some teams might have already done the sans-training-camp thing.


Catalunya stage 5, FFFFF sprint ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg) (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg) ) ;
86º  Queiros   2:02"

In a word, damn!  Queiros could not hang with his two main helpers, Pensec and Hummelsby, in S1, but still, fortunately, got aid from Campos in every section, or else the damage could have been worse.  I will chalk this race up as more beta gathering for future reference, I suppose.

Volta a Catalunya, final GC ;
4º  Queiros   2:13" 

Due to the tactical miscue, Queiros dropped a place in the final GC.   The 4th is still the best-ever tour finish in D1 for my team, so I should be  :D, and I am.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Rico on May 06, 2022, 10:51:44 PM
A good 2nd place in this small tour for Ben Kok, a long way after Fevola, but also quite a long way before the #3. He was very suited for this race apart from the cobblestone stage, and that was where the Tour was lost in the end.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 07, 2022, 12:55:24 AM
Got me thinking that there should be an award for teams in D1 which make the top ten in the final standings without the use of training camps. It'd be like climbing Everest without the use of supplemental oxygen.  With a posse of superior riders (or maybe just one or two), some teams might have already done the sans-training-camp thing.
I think that a ranking of 1A teams that do not use TC bonuses = an empty ranking. ;)

Just nine?  Wow, thanks for the tip.   I'm thinking the same EP output would be considered safe for a FFFFF race, as well.

I'm thinking that a tour cyclist must use all 12 EP in a so called "damage control tactic" in a FFFFF sprint race.

When there would be wind in CAT stage 4 FFFFM, the 9 EP tactic of a tour cyclist might be risky, and sometimes too risky.
Now there was no wind, and 9 EP most likely too much energy, because this is how stage 4 went ( size of front groups per section ) =
100 - 99 - 84 - 83 - 1
As you can see, no breaks in the peleton, because I suspect that there were just a number of tired helpers who dropped in s3.
Always handy to analyse a race like this, with the size of front groups per section. It could be valuable information for a next time.

The 4th is still the best-ever tour finish in D1 for my team, so I should be  :D, and I am.
Congratulations with your best GC result ever. 8) 
Hopefully somewhere in the future a very prestigious GC podium place. Already good luck !
This top GC result of Queiros already (unofficially-)secured your season goal of not to relegate, when I look at your pretty strong team.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 07, 2022, 10:16:21 AM
Congratulations with your best GC result ever. 8) 
Hopefully somewhere in the future a very prestigious GC podium place. Already good luck !
This top GC result of Queiros already (unofficially-)secured your season goal of not to relegate, when I look at your pretty strong team.

With 25 of 91 races run, thank you.   Still lots of work to be done to achieve the goal.

Gent Wevelgem,   FFCChF, ( (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg) )

20º  Tajan   0:00"

This one ended with a bunch sprint of 33.   Tajan has some sprint skills, so he was selected as captain.  He performed credibly as did a couple helpers, including OG Luke Rose, who I may put up for sale after De Ronde van Vlaanderen.   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 07, 2022, 10:32:30 AM
Gent Wevelgem ;
13º  Hartlooper
This was the 2nd and last time that the Dutch champion cyclocross was the teamcaptain this season, and he did well ; 17º SB + 13º GW.
In DDV and RVV he will be the important helper to his Italian teammate.
(https://i.imgur.com/K2sP7QF.jpeg)
Erwin Hartlooper ; born in Hoogerheide ( NL )
extra speciality = cyclocross
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Aurora Australis on May 07, 2022, 02:23:14 PM
I've often thought that they should have a running version of cyclocross (Most often when I'm using the local kids BMX track as part of my exercise when jogging).
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 07, 2022, 07:13:36 PM
"Hartlooper" is misspelled, although it is probably ancient Dutch, and pronounced the same as "hardloper" what means "running person".
That is why he has an applicable picture of a running cyclist on his profile. :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 07, 2022, 07:28:20 PM
Dwars door Vlaanderen ( storm ) ;
11º  Taglioni
As only one he tried to anticipate on a s4 solo attack of Vetsch( who won this DDV ), what caused a chase of being solo as 2nd on 0:03"
But this s4 move of Taglioni was a bit too opportunistic, because 7 rivals passed him easily in s5, and he lost the sprint to the nrs 9º & 10º.
Still, a decent good result in this stormy DDV.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 07, 2022, 10:54:54 PM
Dwars door Vlaanderen ( storm ) ;
11º  Taglioni
As only one he tried to anticipate on a s4 solo attack of Vetsch( who won this DDV ), what caused a chase of being solo as 2nd on 0:03"
But this s4 move of Taglioni was a bit too opportunistic, because 7 rivals passed him easily in s5, and he lost the sprint to the nrs 9º & 10º.
Still, a decent good result in this stormy DDV.

Yes, a good result.   :)

I can't say the same for my guy, OG Rose, who enjoyed good success in the first three CH monuments (9th OHN, 4th SB, and 5th E3H), but now lacking the TC bonus for (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinoro.png), and having a director who is lacking in team spirit score, he was dropped in the S1 flat section along with his helpers.  :(

The drop also might have been a result of the (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg) and (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg) and/or the 83 who made the first bunch just being stronger (with TC bonus) or using an additional EP.

In any case, the result:

Dwars door Vlaanderen;
27º  Rose  0:41"

I am :) that he scored for our team   because 26 of the 50 teams in 1A did not.

Congrats to QuintoYtapa (535 pts scored) and CobbleCrushers (525), who both crushed it.

We hope to be better prepared for De Ronde van Vlaanderen.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 08, 2022, 02:40:02 PM
Ronde van Vlaanderen ;
29º  Taglioni
A dissapointing race that was already over right after start ; my whole team could not follow the s1 front peleton of 83.
The 1 EP start of Taglioni was clearly not enough, and another indication that he was less good as I thought = 
he did not even got a dissapointing icon in s1 despite his crucial bad start.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 08, 2022, 07:19:28 PM
Ronde van Vlaanderen ;
27º  Rose
Like for Vos and Sportlife, this was a dissapointing race because I needed to ride Rose more aggressively in S2, S3, and S4. The good news was that Rose (and one helper) were not dropped in S1.   However, Rose and that helper were dropped in S2, so one more EP for both was needed there.  The leave-little-in-the-tank-for-S5 strategy probably would have netted Rose a better result. 

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/b7a5672a34004ea508e7287b01b4f61a.png)   (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

151 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/rusia.jpg) Ektov ( 31 ), ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/vueltaoro.jpg) )
152 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/suiza.jpg) Semon ( 32 ), ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasoro.jpg) )
153 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Tajan ( 25 ), ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinoro.jpg) )
154 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Goedkoop ( 28 ), ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/vueltaoro.jpg) )
155 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) Lyka ( 30 ), ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/montanaoro.jpg) )


Ektov and Goedkoop, the two tour guys, are not in top form (and I ran out of the form-booster cards), so we will see how they hold up riding at 100/98 x 5.  I imagine that race 3 (HHHHH) will be contested by a ton of in-form, top-drawer hillers who have just completed training camps in preparation for AG, FW, & LBL.   I have such a one in Semon, and I am still pondering how I will use him in R3.   I suppose the results of the first two races (FHFHF TT & MFMFF), in particular for Ektov, who I have designated as captain, will help me determine how I race the hills stage and the last two.

Itzulia, stage 1 FHFHF TT ((https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)) ;

11º  Ektov ( captain-to-be )  1:12"
25º  Goedkoop ( helper-to-be )  1:28"

Off to go play World Challenge and hope I can win a couple of form-booster cards.   :D
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 08, 2022, 08:14:13 PM
Let's put my forum post of earlier today in the right season topic. 
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/b7a5672a34004ea508e7287b01b4f61a.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

After I had a meeting with Vinokoerov, he arranged that Yakovlev is riding under the flag of Kazakhstan.
Although Yakovlev is a silver tour cyclist, he is not suited for a GC in this Itzulia due to his skills ; TT = 6( ! ) and cobble = 24.
Despite this, he gets the backnumber that ends on 1, because he is the teamcaptain in stages 2 and 4.

In stage 3 Meijer will be the leader, and stage 5 is for Taglioni.
Meijer is lucky that he has a helper, because Lamas has to use this little tour to get in top form for the hills classics ( also as helper ).
Taglioni has to do it without support, because Conti is selected to try to help Yakovlev a bit.

161 (https://i.imgur.com/RrhEZXJ.jpeg) Yakovlev ( 32 ), silver "tour"
162 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Meijer ( 30 ), hills
163 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Taglioni ( 30 ), cobblehills
164 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), "tour"
165 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Lamas ( 31 ), silver hills

Good luck everyone ! :)
Itzulia stage 1, hills TT ;
nothing at stake, SPORTLIFE enjoyed the Basque scenery. :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 09, 2022, 07:50:35 AM
Itzulia, stage 2 MFMhFF ((https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)) ;

12º  Ektov ( captain )  0:00"
35º  Goedkoop ( helper )  0:31"

I was going to assign Ektov one less EP in S1 and one more in S5, but I was afraid of him getting dropped and not being able to come back in S2.   A review of the section times told me my fear was likely unwarranted and that coming in @ :15" with his helpers in S1 would have been okay.  He eventually finished in the 25-rider lead group and emerged as the GC leader after this one.  :)  He will likely lose time, hopefully not too much, to some of the other GC guys after the HHHHH race.   We also hope his 100/98 h/f will not come back to bite him.    Goedkoop, also not in top form, is 19th GC @ 0:46"   Both might be buoyed by the skills of our team director, who has good scores for motivation (94) and other tours (89).
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 09, 2022, 08:08:39 AM
Itzulia, stage 2, MFM^FF ;
2º  Yakovlev
Good result of the 5th favorite, thanks to an excellent helper's job of Conti who was with his teamcaptain in s4.
Of course, so close to a victory is not satisfying.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Rico on May 09, 2022, 09:15:10 AM
Opposite feelings here, not happy with the tactics, because Kok was isolated in S4, but happy that he won on his own  8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 09, 2022, 09:32:35 AM
Congrats with the victory of Ben Kok. :)

About Yakovlev, 2nd is not satisfying, but happy with his result and to me surprising that he was the 5th favorite, for example flat/tw = 67/41.
He is a Eschborn-Frankfurt specialist, and there he can use his strenght more = hills.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Rico on May 09, 2022, 09:42:08 AM
Yes, to me it looks like hills play a larger role in this stage than would be logical looking at the profile. I would not even be surprised if S3 was a hill section instead of a mountain section, looking at how far my domestique (who has very low hills) was behind after s3.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 09, 2022, 12:28:55 PM
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/eguesibar.jpg)

General info(= my point of view), so it is not really a reaction to Rico, because he is very experienced and knows the info below :

section 3 in the picture = a combi-section of climb ánd hills.
Always the case when you see such a brown climb section with a 3"category or 4"category in it. Because :
4" and 3" = hills
2" and 1" and E" = mountains.

What counts in every section = race GV + "underground".
( the race GV is of more influence in a section, how much more than "underground" is unknown )

Hills gets a very low percentage in the race GV, but for sure counts in s3 due to the 3"category hill,
although in s3 "underground"hills counts a little less than "underground" climb, because a climb is "heavier" than a hill.

The ranking of "heavy" and "light" sections =

1. climb
2. hills & cobblehills
3. flat-cobble
- - - - - - - - - - - ( a dot line to show that the 3 above are much heavier than the 2 below )
4. flat
5. downhill

The heavier a section is, the more effective the used energy is. What is also the case in real cycling.

For example ;
Dumoulin makes a training ride and the track is one section upmountain and one section downhill.
He has a total of 4 EP for both sections.
The first time he decides to use 1 EP in s1 (= mountain ) and 3 EP in s2 (= downhill ), and he finishes after 55 minutes.
The next day the same training ride, now 4 EP in 1 and 0 EP in s2, and he finishes already after 30 minutes.
25 minutes faster with the same total amount of energy used.
This has everything to do with that using energy in the mountains is much more effective than using energy in downhill.
In other words ; a climb section is the "most heavy" section, and a downhill section is the "lightest" section.

Therefore such a combi climb+hills section 3 as in the race picture of Itzulia stage 2, is a tiny little "lighter" than a real mountain section.
Upmountain sections are the heaviest, because there is no downhill in it.
( of course, downhill can count in a upmountain section, if it is in the race GV, because per section it is always = race GV + underground )
And the category is often also of influence in how "heavy" a section is. ( sometimes not, I guess the software maker was lazy then )
An E" category is more heavy than a 2" category mountain, and therefore using energy is more effective on a E"category mountain,
although it depends on where the mountains are in a track, and also it depends on if a mountain section has downhill in it or not.

There are more of such combi-sections(climb+hills) this season ;
s3 of stage 4, Tour de Suisse
s2 of stage 4, Tour de France
s2 of stage 8, Tour de France

For example s2 of stage 4 TdF, there the 4" hill is of almost no influence,
because in the underground climb counts more + in the race GV climb counts a lot.
A climb teamcaptain without a hill skill does not have to adjust the tactics in s2, the 4"hill is no worry, his "section-GV" is good enough.
However, to climbers with no hill skill and who are riding in a helper's role, s2 might be tricky due to the 4"hill in it.

And there are more combi sections in this game, for example all flat sections with a "hidden" hill in it.
And also not "hidden" hills in a flat section, such as s5 of MilanoSanremo ; those two 4"cat.hills are the Cipressa and the Poggio.
For sure hills&dh count too in the underground of s5 in MSR, the hill-skill even a lot. On top of that, hills is in the race GV as well.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 09, 2022, 08:06:24 PM
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/eguesibar.jpg)

General info(= my point of view), so it is not really a reaction to Rico, because he is very experienced and knows the info below :

For this race, I used the **** provided pre-race to calculate the possible GV and came up with these #s:

ST 14  Sp 21  CL 25  FL 14  TQDHHLAGTW

I'd be interested in opinions from others re: the above #s.  For instance, now in retrospect, I think the value for hills should be lower, probably 5.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 09, 2022, 08:08:30 PM
Itzulia, stage 3 hills ( 1x wind ) ;
10º  Meijer
A very bad tactical race ; a drop in s2, already isolated in s3, and Meijer got 3x the sleeping icon in this race.
The manager is to blame, because he tried a tactical very risky s2, and in s3 he gambled on the active weather icon of the helper.
Both tactical choices were bad.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 09, 2022, 08:23:24 PM
For this race, I used the **** provided pre-race to calculate the possible GV and came up with these #s:

ST 14  Sp 21  CL 25  FL 14  TQDHHLAGTW

I'd be interested in opinions from others re: the above #s.  For instance, now in retrospect, I think the value for hills should be lower, probably 5.

I do not know what the race GV should be, my estimation is a gamble.
But if this was a NT race
( the only time I botter to figure out a race GV, because in normal CFF races, knowing approx. the GV is already enough to race tactical perfectly. )
I estimate it is something like this, and of course, I could be very wrong with my estimation.
In fact, if you ask me 5 days in a row to estimate this race GV, I would have 5 times/ every day a (slightly) different estimation. :)
But fun to speculate and estimate, so here is my attempt to figure out this race GV, for what it is worth :

ST 12  Sp 23  CL 24  FL 14  TQDHHLAGTW 5  = 100%
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 09, 2022, 08:25:07 PM
Itzulia, stage 3, HHHHH ; ((https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg) (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

15º  Semon 0:24"  (free)
105º  Tajan 1:22"  (helper)
113º  Ektov 1:30" (captain)

The result for Ektov was the best we could concoct, given that he is just a 4-star hiller.   Our young cobbles-hills rider Tajan did a nice job of providing help in every section to limit the time-loss damage. 

Ektov dropped two places for the GC, and is now in 3rd @:45.  Ahead of him are two formidable riders in Litenko (°Peachy°Melocotons) and  Kristiansen (MarquinaTeam).  And behind him are seventeen others within a minute of his time.

The next two races HMMHH and CHx5 should provide some fireworks for the GC
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 10, 2022, 09:24:38 AM
Itzulia, stage 4, HMMHH ; ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg) )

21º  Ektov 0:33"  (free)
27º  Lyka 0:33"  (helper)

Lyka did a great of job of helping Ektov in every section, and the latter's final result would have been better if he rode the race with full form. 

Ektov dropped three places for the GC, and is now in 6th @:51. 

For this race:  (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/zalla.jpg)

In the top 10 GC, riders with (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinbronce.jpg) and/or (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasplata.jpg) icons to watch out for are Simsons ( 3rd @ :33 ), Regan-Murphy ( 5th @ :40 ), Klatt ( 7th @ :57 ), Bidonov ( 9th @ 1:14 ) and Streller ( 10th @ 1:14).

It will be a challenge for Ektov to stay in the top 10, but we will try our best.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 10, 2022, 09:41:41 AM
Itzulia, stage 4 climbhills ;
14º  Yakovlev   0:20"
In TT stage 1 he finished as 179º, and to my surprise he is now 13ºGC on 1:48" ( incl. 1x free role ).

Maybe a few unexpected GC points are possible despite his very low cobble skill ánd if he is the teamcaptain in stage 5.
Probably not, and Taglioni will be the leader in stage 5, as planned.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 10, 2022, 07:14:43 PM
Itzulia stage 5 cobblehills ;
13º  Taglioni
As expected, he had to do it entirely on his own and got a decent result.
In a free role, Yakovlev finished as 133º on 3:45" and ended up as 22ºGC, what is 25 seconds behind the nr 20ºGC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 10, 2022, 10:51:12 PM
Itzulia, stage 5, ChChChChCh ; ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg) )

53º  Tajan 1:04"  (helper)
103º  Ektov 3:00"  (captain)

I had to decide whether to sacrifice Tajan ((https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasbronce.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinoro.jpg)) to help Ektov or to let him ride free and possibly score some points.  After weighing out the potential point gains and losses, I decided to sacrifice him.  He didn't grumble about my decision, and I'm thankful for that.

In this cobbles/hills race, I knew that Ektov, even riding full gas, was not strong enough to make the lead group in S1, but I was encouraged that he made the 2nd group @ 0:29, with the help of Tajan, of course.   I made an incorrect EP choice for Tajan in S2, with the result being that he left Ektov behind.   :(     Ektov then rode the rest of the way without help.   I did find it interesting and informative that as a helper, Tajan lost just 19 seconds after riding S3 and S4 with 0 EPs.

To determine how well (or poorly) Ektov (3:00) did, I checked the stage results for the top 5 guys in the GC (Bidonov (1:24), Min (1:04), Simsons (2:22), Kristiansen (2:55), and Regan-Murphy (2:22).   Their finish times for the stage are in parentheses.

In the end, Ektov dropped 4 places in the GC to finish 10th @ 1:13.  Though he (and I) could have done better, I'm  :D with result.

Next up are four classics: PR, AGR, FW, and LBL.  In S16, my team's first and last foray into Div 1, we scored in two of the four.  In S24, we are hoping for the same if not better results.   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 11, 2022, 06:38:50 AM
Paris Roubaix FCFCC ; ( (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg) )

15º  Hummelsby :26"  (captain)

Not wanting to get shut out, I first went with ride-em-hard tactics but then thought better of that approach and went with more standard tactics, which worked and gave Hummelsby help thru S4.  The only thing I might have done is take the risk on one less EP in S1 for everyone, but that was a risk I was unwilling to take. However, noting the size of the lead group (96) in S1, I think we might have still made it with one less EP for all.

It's now on to the hills classics, where we will see how my captain will fare. 
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 12, 2022, 09:44:50 PM
Paris Roubaix ( 1x wind ) ;
Unfortunately no SPORTLIFE contenders for this prestigious monumental classic race.
Taglioni ( most likely just bronze on flat-cobble ) saved the honor of my team by finishing as 44º.

Amstel Gold Race ;
Due to a lack of support in s4, teamcaptain Lamas ( silver 9-stars flat-hills ) was not good enough to score points and finished as 36º.

Flèche Wallonne ( 1x wind ) ;
11º  Meijer
Best helper Lamas had a complete offday, so it was up to back up helper Taglioni to help in s1 + s2, and Meijer already isolated in s3.
The SPORTLIFE teamcaptain could follow the s4 front group of 22, but without help, he could not follow in s5 and finished on 0:13"

Liège–Bastogne–Liège ( 1x wind ) ;
15º  Meijer
My wole team was surprised by the sudden attack in flat s2 of CobbleCrushers, what narrowed the front peleton down from 103 to 54.
Far behind, Lamas did an excellent helper's job, incl. in the important s4, and therefore not a very bad result of Meijer.
But certainly not a good result due to the surprising flat s2.

And not a good hills campaign of SPORTLIFE, I expected more points.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 12, 2022, 09:47:12 PM
Amstel Gold Race FhFHHH ; (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)

22º  Semon :23"

Flèche Wallonne FHHHH ;  (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

63º  Semon :52"  :(

Liège–Bastogne–Liège  HFHHH;  (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)

52º  Semon :54"  :(

Our star hills rider Semon put in a request to be put on the market because his talent is being wasted by an inept manager (yes, me).  We are currently pondering that request.  Said inept manager (yes, me) promised to analyze the results of all three races to determine what went wrong tactically for the team and what right for other teams, and then use that knowledge to make better choices in the future.   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 12, 2022, 10:30:27 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/c61102f7ec06a98faff60612b2c41637.png)   (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

181 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Haan ( 31 ), tour
182 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/rusia.jpg) Ektov ( 31 ), tour
183 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Goedkoop ( 28 ), tour
184 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Perry ( 31 ), climb
185 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Espinar ( 25 ), hill/sprint

This is the first tour of the season where all riders entered for our team are 100/100 HF.   What that means is that there will be no resorting to "he would have done better if he were in top form" excuses.   In any case, Haan will be our captain, and we have hopes he will do well.

**Thank you, Vos, for the post template.  8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 13, 2022, 12:36:28 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/c61102f7ec06a98faff60612b2c41637.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

An unprepared B-selection in this little tour, due to my mega-mistake what caused missing out many points and good results.

161 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) Beckham ( 28 ), climb
162 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Muntendam ( 32 ), hills-sprint
163 (https://i.imgur.com/RrhEZXJ.jpeg) Yakovlev ( 32 ), silver"tour"with TT= 6
164 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) Szõnyi ( 28 ), climb
165 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Caneschi ( 26 ), climb

Good luck everyone ! :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 13, 2022, 07:45:25 PM
Romandie, stage 1, FFFFF ; (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)

53º  Espinar 0:20"  (helper)
103º  Haan 1:25"  (captain)

Of the GC guys, Lonfat and Kover fared the best, finishing @ 0:20".  A dozen came in @ 0:57" and bunch more, including Haan, finished @ 1:25". 

Romandie, stage 2, MFMMD ; (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

42º  Haan 1:04"  (captain)

As usual, the tactics were not optimal but were good enough to not lose massive time for Haan.  Of the GC guys, Kover (HTCHungria) finished 5th @ 0:00",  Robinson (CSluj) 10th @ 0:15". Simsons (OphiukoCT), Lonfat (Elgrand) and Azarov (CaptainOrange) also finished @ 0:15".   Finishing @ 0:33" were  Miorlin (Shiro_Lions) and Salcedo (Flyvende_hjul).

For the GC, the top 3 are Kover, Lonfat (@ 0:15") and Azarov (@ 0:52").   Haan is 13th GC @ 2:09".

Next up is a frigid hills-sprint race (HHHFF) where we hope to gain some ground in the GC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 13, 2022, 11:52:43 PM
ROM stage 2, MFMMD ;
8º  Beckham
27º  Yakovlev ( free role )

Thanks to helper Muntendam, Yakovlev finished in the 3rd group in sprint stage 1,
and after this free role stage 2 result, he is ranked as 9ºGC on 1:41"

Although he is good in the next HHHFF stage 3, my decision is that Yakovlev sacrifices his "possible" GC,
and that he even will be the helper of Muntendam in stage 3.

I gave Yakovlev the instructions to take it easy in stage 4 ( with his TT-skill= 6 ) ánd in stage 5 ( again a free role, or even as extra helper ),
because he has to save energy for Frankfurt, his main goal.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 14, 2022, 10:35:54 AM
ROM stage 3, HHHFF ;
11º  Muntendam
Very good result of my TC-less silver hills-sprinter in an 11 EP tactic(to compensate his bad sprint skill), thanks to a perfect helper's job of Yakovlev.
Yakovlev finished in the 2nd group, and still a high GC ranking, despite 1x free role & 1x helper role, at the moment GC on 2:16"

Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 14, 2022, 12:40:23 PM
ROM stage 3, HHHFF ;
69º  Espinar (helper)  0: 35"
72º  Haan (captain)  0: 35"

This was an okay result though we were hoping for a 0:00" finish for both with Espinar finishing in the top 30. 

For the GC, Haan moved up a spot and now sits in 12th @ 2:45.

He's pretty decent against the clock, so he should move up some more after tomorrow's/today's TT race.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 14, 2022, 07:19:23 PM
ROM stage 4, hills-TT ;
143º  Yakovlev   2:53"  --> with mechanical breakdown in s3.
This result caused a drop of 11 GC places and now 19ºGC on 3:31"
It seems that I made the right decision to go for stage results, rather than a possible GC of Yakovlev.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 14, 2022, 07:35:14 PM
ROM stage 4, FHFDF TT (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg) (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)

14º  Haan   1: 06"
23º  Ektov   1: 13"
27º  Goedkoop   1: 20"

Though we could not come close to the 250-point haul made by team Aurora_Australis, we were happy about the 76 points banked by our three tour riders, which included GC captain Haan, who moved into the top 10 GC (8th @ 2:12) as a result of his 14th place finish in this TT.

Next up is the final stage of S24 Tour Romandie, where we return to the mountains to see how our team will fare.

In the real world, the 155km race route from Gstaad to Leukerbad was last contested at the 2021 Tour de Suisse and was won by Richard Carapaz (Ineos Grenadiers).   Meanwhile, the 30th place rider, Kilian Frankiny (Team Qhubeka Assos) came in @ 6:07". 

It will be interesting to see what the time gap will be between 1st and 30th in our virtual race later today.  Whatever it turns out to be, we hope Haan is among the 30 (but that may be a big ask).   ???

Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 15, 2022, 12:46:45 PM
ROM stage 5, MDFMM ;
5º  Beckham
29º  Yakovlev ( free role )

To my surprise Yakovlev moved up 5 places in the GC.
Tour de Romandie, final GC ;
14º  Yakovlev   4:08"
With 2x free roles in the crucial mountain stages, and even 1x a helper role in stage 3. ( and mechanical breakdown in the time trial )

On second thought, maybe not the best decision after all to go for stage results, Yakovlev could have finished top8 GC easily.

On third thought, the best is to forget this Romandie right away.
Because also in hinside ; it is very clear that I missed out a lot of points ánd top results.
Yakovlev and Beckham were planned to ride this Romandie as helpers, for my 3 much better cyclists who did not get the right TC period,
and due to this mega mistake, they were absence in this little tour. Luckily the next tour is more important = Giro d'Italia. :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 15, 2022, 01:05:36 PM
ROM stage 5, MDFMM (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

38º  Haan (captain)  1: 42"
59º Perry (helper)  2: 10"
64º Ektov (free)  2: 10"

To my dismay, Haan was isolated in the flat S3 ( :'( ).  Why?  Because I had miscalculated the energy expenditure needed for his two helpers.  With better energy allocations for his two designated domestiques, Haan should have comfortably finished @ 1:14 (in the top 30) or, in the best case, @ :56 (in the top 20). 

Despite my continuing EP miscues, we were able to score points in the GC, with Haan finishing 10th GC @ 3:18 and Ektov, who was used mostly as a helper, finishing 18th GC @ 5:06.   :)

As we near the halfway point of Season 24, we are 19th in the team standings, with 2842 points.   As such, we are on track to achieve the goal of non-relegation at season's end. 

I also hope to win the (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/UsaG.jpg) for the first time.  Codex will not make that hope easy to achieve, so I'll have to improve and keep pushing.

Next up is Eschborn-Frankfurt, a race that intrigues me.   I am eager to find out the results of my tactical choices.

 
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 15, 2022, 08:32:54 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/28b1bdb46a7fe0ef3bc71ce3defe3266.png)

24º  Haan 0:00" (captain)
43º Queiros 0:46" (free)

I imagine that a few of the top thirty rode flat S1 with 0 EP.   It was a chance I was not willing to take, so I assigned my captain 1 EP.  All my helpers (3 of 'em) rode S1 with 2 EP, which was a mistake.  I should have had at least one of them ride S1 with 1EP, if anything, to test the waters to see if that would've resulted in a drop. My guess is it wouldn't have.

A review of Vos's posts of the past re: Eschborn Frankfurt indicates to me that captains riding S1 in calm mode (i.e. 0 EP) has happened without a drop occurring.  According to Vos, the contrary (a captain being dropped due to 0 EP is S1) has occurred.  I suppose the flat strength of the captain and the helpers, plus the prevailing weather conditions, are also factors in whether a drop in S1 will occur or not.

Whatever the case, we are happy to have scored in this classic race, particularly after the dismal results for our team in the recently-contested hills classics.

Now it's on to the first grand tour of the season, where we are uncertain how our captain (Haan) will fare.  We anticipate the GC competition to be fierce, but we are eager to participate in the battle.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 16, 2022, 04:34:39 AM
Eschborn-Frankfurt ;
9º  Yakovlev   0:00"
27º  Viñas ( helper ) 0:00"

This was an almost traditional EF in how the race went = 161 - 60 - 61 - 1 ( 2nd group= 7 ) - 41.

Despite my EF notes said "172 in s1, and 0 EP in s1 with a helper is possible in a windless EF"
I decided to make a last-minute tactical change due to the low flat-skill (63 or so) of not-favorite Yakovlev who has a very good EF-GV,
and also due that even a windless EF had sometimes exceptional hard starts in the past seasons, for example in previous season.
Also the best helper had the same last-minute change of 1 EP in s1 instead of the original 0 EP.
What was clearly a tactical mistake and a waste of energy with such a mega s1 peleton of 161,
where only unhealthy young cyclists could not follow.

Looking at the result(s), probably more managers made this same tactical mistake, maybe also due to the "rare" EF of last season.
Maybe back then there were 2 favorites of the same team, then even a "quiet" s1 as in a windless EF can be tricky if that team attacks.
Most editions of EF had wind, often not such a problem to a teamcaptain, but for sure it is to helpers, then the 0 EP trick is not possible.

Anyway, I'm happy with the points in EF, the this night sold Yakovlev probably could not win anyway,
and rather be too "safe" than a tactical failure in s1 what causes zero points.
And my team needs the points desperately to avoid a for my team historic low final season ranking in 1A,
and perhaps more important ; my team has the ambition to stay ahead of LanihuliCycling.  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 16, 2022, 04:37:44 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/8ed052732fddd78a1b24c0eb2887c9f6.png)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

191 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Haan ( 31 ), tour
192 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colombia.jpg) Campos ( 31 ), tour, (helper)
193 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Goedkoop ( 30 ), tour, (helper)
194 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Vien ( 25 ), hills/sprint (helper)
195 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Pensec ( 22 ), hills-sprint (helper)

I have no doubt the competition for points will be fierce, but our hope is to score in every stage, save for the two flat TTs, where we have no hope (for points).   Another hope is for Haan to finish in the top 20 GC, the higher the better, of course.   

Best results to all the teams entered!
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 16, 2022, 04:48:44 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/8ed052732fddd78a1b24c0eb2887c9f6.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

Arnau was 5º in the Tour de France of last season. Now the Giro is his season goal, and hopefully again a top GC result.
His teammates will be used as helpers, although Viñas gets a free role in most stages.

151 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Arnau ( 31 ), tour
152 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Viñas ( 32 ), tour
153 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Lewis ( 25 ), climb
154 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Muntendam ( 32 ), silver hills-sprint
155 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Granberg ( 31 ), bronze hills-sprint

Good luck everyone !  :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 16, 2022, 04:55:37 AM
And my team needs the points desperately to avoid a for my team historic low final season ranking in 1A,
and perhaps more important ; my team has the ambition to stay ahead of LanihuliCycling.  ;)  :)

 :) ;)  Good luck with that!

And thanks for the explanation of what's happened at Eschborn-Frankfurt.   As always, lots of valuable info provided.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 16, 2022, 05:27:51 AM
thanks  :))

Giro stage 1, FFFMD ( 1x wind ) ;
26º  Arnau  1:02"
28º  Lewis ( masterhelper )  1:02" --> with 5x hands symbols.
38º  Viñas ( free role )  1:30"

No risk taking in this stage that went like this = 88 - 88 - 85 - 1 - 1.
Because Arnau has skills like dh=69 & tw=12, what could bring his GV down too much.

In retrospective ; less energy was needed in s2 and s3, but after the race it is always easy to say what would have been the best.
Before this race the tactical choice of taking no risk was the best, and on top of that, Lewis did an amazing helper's job.
Lewis was one of the just 5 helpers who got a hands symbol in s5, also Campos ( LanihuliCycling ) was such an exceptional helper. :)
And Lewis was the only helper that indeed stayed with his teamcaptain in s5, for what it is worth, just nice to mention.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 16, 2022, 05:59:04 AM
Lewis was one of the just 5 helpers who got a hands symbol in s5, also Campos ( LanihuliCycling ) was such an exceptional helper. :) And Lewis was the only helper that indeed stayed with his teamcaptain in s5, for what it is worth, just nice to mention.

Giro stage 1, FFFMD ( 1x wind ) ;
34º  Haan  1:19"
42º  Campos ( helper )  1:30" --> with 5x hands symbols.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the splits in S4 seems to tell the story of what happened in S1 thru S3.     
Yes, Campos did good work as a helper.  Thanks, Vos, for pointing that out.  Chalk this race up as yet another lesson learned re: energy expenditure.  I'm sure in the future I will continue to falter tactically, but my continuing hope is that I falter less.  :)

Sadly, the goal of scoring in every stage save for the two flat TTs is now shot.  But we will perservere to see how Haan and the team will fare the rest of this Giro.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Rico on May 16, 2022, 08:19:29 AM
Giro stage 1, FFFMD ( 1x wind ) ;
5º  Azarov  0:23"
12º  Heemskerk (helper)  0:45"

Really nice start of the Giro, where Azarov manages to grab a few seconds on other Tour riders. Goal is a podium place in this Tour, we are even going to sacrifice a couple of trainings to that so that Dada can ride with health 96 or above this whole Giro  ;D

Adding to the discussion on this stage, it looks like helper bonus plays a large role here. Because of the great help of Heemskerk (who was on the favourites list), Azarov manages to get a 5th spot without a climbing TC bonus.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 16, 2022, 10:40:04 AM
Giro stage 1, FFFMD ( 1x wind ) ;
5º  Azarov  0:23"
12º  Heemskerk (helper)  0:45"

Really nice start of the Giro, where Azarov manages to grab a few seconds on other Tour riders. Goal is a podium place in this Tour, we are even going to sacrifice a couple of trainings to that so that Dada can ride with health 96 or above this whole Giro  ;D

Adding to the discussion on this stage, it looks like helper bonus plays a large role here. Because of the great help of Heemskerk (who was on the favourites list), Azarov manages to get a 5th spot without a climbing TC bonus.

Nice work.

I was just remarking to Vos (via PM) about the game and that a big part of it is finding perfect marriages between helpers and leaders.   You obviously found the perfect marriage between Heemskerk and Azarov.   My guess is that Dada rode with the identical tactics of Heemskerk, something like 21153.   Meanwhile, D1 newbie me, rode my captain with 43050 and helpers with 54120.  Yes,  :'(   But I am always seeking to improve.   :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Rico on May 16, 2022, 01:32:48 PM
No need to downplay your own knowledge about this game, I'm sure you know a lot after playing for many many seasons.

 In general, in stages like this with 3 flat sections to start and not a lot wind, I think that it's mainly a matter of being in the first group in s1 and then not spending a lot of energy in the following flat sections.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 16, 2022, 11:15:06 PM
Giro stage 2, climb TT ;
13º  Arnau   0:40"
18º  Lewis   0:43"  --> with mechanical breakdown in s4.
44º  Viñas   1:17"
Excellent result of Arnau, who is now 16ºGC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 17, 2022, 12:23:22 AM
Excellent result of Arnau, who is now 16ºGC.

I did a cursory check of the current GC top 50 and found that some in it are climb and/or climb TT specialists, so, factoring those specialists out, the (actual/virutal) top 20 GC are

1. Azarov,  CaptainOrange
2. Salcedo (0:26), Flyvende_hjul
3. Steine (0:27), ValeronIdolo
4. Perec (0:38), OphiukoCT
5. Kover (0:46), HTCHungria
6. De Jong (0:51), Bikeos
7. Neuhaus (0:53), QuintoYtapa
8. Glibin (0:55), °Peachy°Melocotons
9. Usakov (0:59) Elgrand
10.  Picoli (1:01) FaltososDeChigre
11.  Arnau (1:02) SPORTLIFE
12. Robinson (1:14) ICSluj
13. Rombaut (1:25) Álvaro_Pino_Boys
14. Molinero (1:34) CajaRuralZamora
15. Costacutta (1:38) HTCHungria
16. Luinge (1:40) Antequera
17. Haan (1:42) LanihuliCycling
18. Corral (1:43) Bikeos
19. Hunter (1:49) Antequera
20. Gloor (1:49) Turrones

Pardon if I missed someone.  In any case, after the sprint stage later today, the GC rankings will be more readily apparent.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 17, 2022, 07:14:58 AM

I did a cursory check of the current GC top 50 and found that some in it are climb and/or climb TT specialists, so, factoring those specialists out, the (actual/virutal) top 20 GC are

1. Azarov,  CaptainOrange
2. Salcedo (0:26), Flyvende_hjul
3. Steine (0:27), ValeronIdolo
4. Perec (0:38), OphiukoCT
5. Kover (0:46), HTCHungria
6. De Jong (0:51), Bikeos
7. Neuhaus (0:53), QuintoYtapa
8. Glibin (0:55), °Peachy°Melocotons
9. Usakov (0:59) Elgrand
10.  Picoli (1:01) FaltososDeChigre
11.  Arnau (1:02) SPORTLIFE
12. Robinson (1:14) ICSluj
13. Rombaut (1:25) Álvaro_Pino_Boys
14. Molinero (1:34) CajaRuralZamora
15. Costacutta (1:38) HTCHungria
16. Luinge (1:40) Antequera
17. Haan (1:42) LanihuliCycling
18. Corral (1:43) Bikeos
19. Hunter (1:49) Antequera
20. Gloor (1:49) Turrones

Pardon if I missed someone.  In any case, after the sprint stage later today, the GC rankings will be more readily apparent.
After the windless 3rd stage sprint race of S24 Giro Italia, this is the GC top 20, with race time in (m:secs).

1   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 00"  (0:54)   
2   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   0: 24" (0:54)   
3   Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 25" (0:54)   
4   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   0: 37"   (0:32)
5   Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   0: 44"  (0:54)   
6   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   0: 49" (0:54)   
7   Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   0: 51" (0:54)   
8   Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   0: 57"  (0:54)   
9   Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   1: 32"  (1:26)   
10   Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   1: 38"  (1:57)   
11   Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   1: 47" (0:54)   
12   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   1: 51" (0:54)   
13   Harry Rombaut   31   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   1: 54" (1:26)   
14   Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   1: 55"  (1:57)   
15   Ferdinand Tajan   31   ValeronIdolo   2: 07" (0:54)   
16   Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   2: 12"  (1:26)   
17   Phil Robinson   27   ICSluj   2: 15"  (1:57)   
18   Mario Campos   31   LanihuliCycling   2: 21"  (1:26)   
19   Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 24"  (1:26)   
20   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   2: 26" (1:26)

Nice work by Picoli (FaltososDeChigre)   to be the only top 20 guy to finish @ :32.  Ten of the top 20 finished at 0:54, and six, including my captain Haan, are shaking their heads after finishing at 1:26".

The next races are flat TTs, and after examining the results of a previous flat TT (Tirreno Stage 2), I discovered the likelihood of more head-shaking by riders who are not so strong in flat races against the clock.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 17, 2022, 06:33:03 PM
Giro stage 3, flat-sprint ;
82º  Arnau ( teamcaptain )   1:26"
87º  Viñas ( free role )   1:26"
Despite excellent help of Muntendam and Granberg, a dissapointing and unlucky s5 finish of the SPORTLIFE teamcaptain.
Arnau finished as 3rd of the 4th group and finished in the same time as his free role teammate, another indication that Arnau was unlucky.
With a little more luck Arnau would have finished in the 3rd group, what is 32 sec. faster, and that is a lot to a GC contender.

As the post of Kekipi already showed, Arnau moved up to 9ºGC despite this unlucky sprint result.
Free role tour cyclist Viñas moved up to 20ºGC.
After the 2 upcoming flat TT stages it will be more clear if Viñas is able to score extra GC points, and if Arnau can compete for a top GC result.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 17, 2022, 07:09:23 PM
Giro stage 4, flat-TT ( storm ) ;
37º  Arnau   2:06" --> with mechanical breakdown in s4.
62º  Viñas   2:42"
GC = the unlucky Arnau dropped one place, and Viñas moved up one place.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 17, 2022, 11:33:08 PM
Giro stage 4, flat-TT ( storm ) ;

The results for my two guys who have GC points ambitions.

46º  Haan   2:19"
61º  Campos   2:41"

The current GC top 20, with ST 4 TT time in (m:secs).

1   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 00"  (1:43)   
2   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   0: 36"  (1:54)   
3   Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 47"   (2:05)
4   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   1: 14" (2:20)   
5   Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 18"  (2:10)
6   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   1: 19"  (2:12)
7   Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   1: 36"  (2:22)
8   Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   1: 41"  (2:40)
9   Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   1: 49"  (1:54)
10   Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   1: 55"  (2:06)
11   Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   2: 25"  (2:12)
12   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   2: 27"  (2:18)
13   Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 35"  (1:54)
14   Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   2: 37"   (2:32)
15   Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   2: 48"  (2:19)
16   Harry Rombaut   31   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   3: 00"  (2:48)
17   Phil Robinson   27   ICSluj   3: 17"  (2:44)
18   Mario Campos   31   LanihuliCycling   3: 19"  (2:41)
19   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   3: 25"  (2:42)
20   Stefan Juhl   29   Antequera   3: 29"  (1:49)

Another flat TT is on tap for later today in Stage 5.  We can anticipate some movement up and down in the GC as a result.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 18, 2022, 07:44:16 AM
Giro stage 4, flat-TT ( storm ) ;

The results for my two guys who have GC points ambitions.

46º  Haan   2:19"
61º  Campos   2:41"

The current GC top 20, with ST 4 TT time in (m:secs).

1   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 00"  (1:43)   
2   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   0: 36"  (1:54)   
3   Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 47"   (2:05)
4   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   1: 14" (2:20)   
5   Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 18"  (2:10)
6   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   1: 19"  (2:12)
7   Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   1: 36"  (2:22)
8   Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   1: 41"  (2:40)
9   Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   1: 49"  (1:54)
10   Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   1: 55"  (2:06)
11   Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   2: 25"  (2:12)
12   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   2: 27"  (2:18)
13   Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 35"  (1:54)
14   Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   2: 37"   (2:32)
15   Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   2: 48"  (2:19)
16   Harry Rombaut   31   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   3: 00"  (2:48)
17   Phil Robinson   27   ICSluj   3: 17"  (2:44)
18   Mario Campos   31   LanihuliCycling   3: 19"  (2:41)
19   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   3: 25"  (2:42)
20   Stefan Juhl   29   Antequera   3: 29"  (1:49)

Another flat TT is on tap for later today in Stage 5.  We can anticipate some movement up and down in the GC as a result.

Giro stage 5, flat-TT ((https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg) ) ;

The results for my two guys who have GC points ambitions.

45º  Haan   2:09"
60º  Campos   2:28"

Current top 20 GC, with time lost in ST 5 in (secs)

1   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 00"  (0)   
2   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   0: 46"  (-10)   
3   Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   1: 08"  (-21)   
4   Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 45" (-27)   
5   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   1: 50" (-31)   
6   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre  1: 54"  (-40)
7   Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   1: 57" (-8)   
8   Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   2: 17"   (-5)
9   Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   2: 22"  (-27)   
10   Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   2: 32"  (-51)   
11   Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 47"  (-12)   
12   Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   2: 55" (-30)   
13   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   3: 06"  (-39)   
14   Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   3: 23"  (-46)   
15   Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   3: 26" (-38)   
16   Stefan Juhl   29   Antequera   3: 34"  (-5)   
17   Billy Janson   26   Aurora_Australis  3: 39" (+91)   
18   Aziz Galak   24   JGMTeam   3: 56"  (-18)   
19   Andrew Dixon   28   Villavante   4: 06"  (+80)   
20   Harry Rombaut   31   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   4: 07" (-67)

Juhl, Janson, Galak and Dixon, all strong TT riders, will likely drop out of the top 20 after the next HHHHH race.   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 18, 2022, 09:55:57 AM
Giro stage 5, flat-TT ( storm ) ;
36º  Arnau   1:58" --> again with a mechanical breakdown , now in s3.
61º  Viñas   2:28"
GC = 
Arnau is clearly riding a very unlucky Giro, now 9ºGC on already 2:22" :(
Viñas moved up 1 place after TT-stage 4, but after TT-stage 5 (with about the same result) he suddenly dropped 7 places to 26ºGC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Aurora Australis on May 18, 2022, 10:27:38 AM
I have a cyclist in the top 20????
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 18, 2022, 10:38:12 AM
Viñas moved up 1 place after TT-stage 4, but after TT-stage 5 (with about the same result) he suddenly dropped 7 places to 26ºGC.
Vinas will likely move up to 19th or 20th after tomorrow's HHHHH race.  What happened is a bunch of TTers, who profited from the TT races, moved into the top 20.  Nice accomplishment by them!  If any of them have some hills skills, they might survive the next three races to stick around in the T20.   My guess is that all will be dropped after stage 6 is done.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 18, 2022, 02:35:14 PM
Ok, thanks Kekipi, because I did not think of the possibillity that TT specialists could be high ranked.
I did not expect it due to stages 1 and 2, where the mountain skill is of big influence.

Now let's see what the impact is of the Italian hills on the GC ranking.
Viñas likes the hills, but to Arnau it will be in survival- and damagecontrol- mode the next 3 stages.
For a tour cyclist he has a low hills GV, no doubt that most tour cyclists are better in the hills.
And an extra worry ; Arnau has no sprint icon.
But I selected great helpers for the upcoming 3 stages, hopefully they can compensate a bit the deficiencies of Arnau.
Well, maybe I should be already happy if Arnau can defeat the "Rooster" in the final GC. ;)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 18, 2022, 10:22:08 PM
Now let's see what the impact is of the Italian hills on the GC ranking.

The stage 6 hills race (HHHHH) definitely had an impact, in particular for Salcedo (Flyvende_hjul), who moved into the lead in the GC, and also for Glibin  (°Peachy°Melocotons)and my guy, Haan, who both made a leap of four places in the standings. 

(previous GC place, GC time after stage 5)

1   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   0: 00"  (2nd, 0:46")   
2   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 03"  (1st, 0:00")   
3   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   0: 50"  (5th, 1:50")   
4   Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   1: 02"  (3rd, 1:08")   
5   Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 48"  (4th, 1:45")   
6   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   1: 48"  (6th, 1:54")   
7   Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   1: 51"  (7th, 1:57")   
8   Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   1: 55"  (12th, 2:55")   
9   Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   2: 11"  (8th, 2:17")   
10   Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   2: 15"  (9th, 2:22")   
11   Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   2: 25"  (15th, 3:26")   
12   Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   2: 26"  (10th, 2:32")   
13   Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 41"  (11th, 2:47")   
14   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   3: 31"  (13th, 3:06)   
15   Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   3: 49"  (14th, 3:23")   
16   Karl Johan Abelstedt   31   TeamSerfin   3: 57"  (??, 4:07+)   
17   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE  (??, 4:07+)      
18   Phil Robinson   27   ICSluj   4: 15"  (??, 4:07+)   
19   Orencio Molinero   32   CajaRuralZamora   4: 25" (??, 4:07+)   
20   Mario Campos   31   LanihuliCycling   4: 27" (??, 4:07+)   


Giro stage 6, HHHHH (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg) ;

16º  Haan   0:36"
19º  Vien   0:36"

Wonderful job of helping by Vien, a silver icon hiller, who scored his first-ever D1 points.   :D
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 19, 2022, 08:27:22 AM
Giro stage 7, FHHFhF (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg) (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)

37º  Pensec   0:52" (Helper)
64º  Haan   0:52" (Captain)

Pensec (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasplata.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sprintoro.jpg) likely would have scored if I had made him captain but the decision was to have him help Haan instead.  Given the hot, windy conditions, attacks were inevitable and we were able to keep Haan safely in the fold.  Haan was able to move into the top 10 GC, and now sits 9th.  Another member of our team, Campos, is in 18th place.

After stage 7, the top 20 GC is as follows:

1   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   0: 00"   
2   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 03"   
3   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   0: 18"   
-------------------------------------------------------
4   Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 30"   
5   Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 16"   
6   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   1: 17"   
7   Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   1: 24"   
8   Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   1: 44"   
9   Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   1: 54"   
10   Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   1: 55"
-------------------------------------------------------
11   Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   2: 16"   
12   Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   2: 35"   
13   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   3: 00"   
14   Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   3: 05"   
15   Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   3: 17"   
16   Phil Robinson   27   ICSluj   3: 44"   
17   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   4: 35"   
18   Mario Campos   31   LanihuliCycling   4: 52"   
19   Karl Johan Abelstedt   31   TeamSerfin   4: 56"   
20   Harry Rombaut   31   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   4: 57"

   

Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 19, 2022, 09:59:18 AM
Giro stage 6, hills ;
52º   Viñas ( free role )  1:26"
67º  Arnau   1:30"
Not such a good race. At least Arnau had the important s4 helper.
And compared to a perfect race, he lost just a few seconds, because there were no big time differences in this race.

Giro stage 7, hills-sprint ( 2x wind ) ;
45º  Arnau   0:52"
91º   Viñas ( free role )  1:48"
Perfect helper's job of Granberg, what caused a good result of Arnau, who finished in the 3rd group.
It seems that Viñas had a complete off-day, he should have done better.

GC = Arnau ( 8º ) is still 10 seconds ahead of Wilco Haan ( LanihuliCycling ).  8) :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 19, 2022, 07:48:28 PM
Giro stage 8, hills-sprint ;
24º  Muntendam ( free role )
27º  Granberg ("helper")
79º  Viñas ( free role )  1:16"
82º  Arnau   1:16"

The start was good, all 4 in the front peleton of 54.
But in s2 it went wrong, 3 dropped out of the front peleton of now 42. ( 25% of all dropped cyclists was SPORTLIFE ). :-\
Only helper Granberg could follow in s2, and I forgot to make Muntendam a helper as well, so, Arnau was already isolated in s2.
I suspect it did not matter, because I'm almost sure that Arnau was not good enough anyway to finish in the 2nd group.
After all, he is not so good in the hills and he has no sprint icon.
Unfortunately, the time difference between 2nd group and 3rd group ( of Arnau ) was enormous = 0:40" :o

Arnau dropped in the GC and now 9º on already 2:24" :-[
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 20, 2022, 03:35:17 AM
Arnau dropped in the GC and now 9º on already 2:24" :-[

Yes, he dropped (as did my guy, Haan, the rooster  :D ), but with (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/montanaplata.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinbronce.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasbronce.jpg) in his pocket for stormy (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg) Stage 9 (FCHFCm), Arnau appears poised for a rise of several places (to 6th?) in the GC.   

Meanwhile, Haan will be relying on the tactical genius (or idiocy) of his manager to obtain a beautiful and not a catastrophic result.

If it is the latter, we know who to blame.   :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 20, 2022, 06:27:40 AM
Giro stage 9, FCHFCm, (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

25º  Haan ( captain ) 1:05"
30º  Campos ( free ) 1:34"
68º  Goedkoop ( helper )  2:37"

This was my favorite race of this Giro.  Why?  Because of the tactical musing required (for me, of course).  I did not know what to expect from "the rooster" but he came through as best as he was able.  He got help in S1 and S2 from Goedkoop, so good job by him. 

Giro Italia GC standings going into the final (mountains -- MMDMM) race:

1   Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 00"   
2   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   0: 24"   
3   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre  0: 25"
   
-----------------------------------------------------
4   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   0: 40"   
5   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 48"   
6   Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   1: 19"   
7   Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   1: 40"   
8   Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 42"   
9   Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   2: 30"   
10   Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   2: 39"
-----------------------------------------------------
11   Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 44"   
12   Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   3: 12"   
13   Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   3: 20"   
14   Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   4: 31"   
15   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   4: 48"   
16   Phil Robinson   27   ICSluj   5: 04"   
17   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   5: 55"   
18   Harry Rombaut   31   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   6: 17"   
19   Ferdinand Tajan   31   ValeronIdolo   6: 28"   
20   Mario Campos   31   LanihuliCycling   6: 40"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 20, 2022, 08:00:57 AM
Arnau dropped in the GC and now 9º on already 2:24" :-[
Yes, he dropped (as did my guy, Haan, the rooster  :D ), but with (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/montanaplata.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinbronce.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasbronce.jpg) in his pocket for stormy (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg) Stage 9 (FCHFCm), Arnau appears poised for a rise of several places (to 6th?) in the GC.   

Well, the embarrissement symbol :-[ that I posted, that was because he is already too far behind to compete for the Giro victory.
For sure Arnau could have been better ranked with less time loss, before "his" stage 9.
In my dream before the Giro ;), this is where he would conquer the maglia rosa, and hopefully defended it successfully in stage 10.
But already 2:24" :-[ behind, well, the reality is different than my pink dream. :)

Giro stage 9, FCHFMc ( storm ) ;
3º  Arnau   0:16"
41º  Viñas ( free role )  1:41"
Excellent solo result of Arnau, despite he had to do it entirely on his own and did not even had help in s1.
But even with the storm and the fact that he could not challenge any favorites, he managed to get into the s4 breakaway group of 11.

Arnau moved up to 7º GC on 1:40" but even the podium seems far out of reach ( 1:15" behind ).
Free role contender Viñas has still a chance to score a few GC points, after this stage 9 that he did not like due to his cobbleskill= 5.
But it could be that Viñas will ride in a helper's role in the final brutal mountain stage.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 21, 2022, 03:49:25 AM
Giro stage 10, mountains ;
3º  Lewis ( free role )  0:00"
20º  Arnau   1:03"
51º  Viñas ( helper )  2:27"

The best result ever in the career of the 25yo Lewis, and even achieved in a free role.  8)
It was up to Viñas to be the helper, but he failed already in s2 what caused that Arnau was isolated almost the whole race.
Probably it did not matter to the GC of Arnau. And the helper's role of Viñas, instead of a free role, costed him just one GC place.

The GC result of Arnau is a bit dissapointing. I expected at least top 5 and I even had a pink dream.  :D
On the bright side, he scored a top 8 GC big sponsordeal of 924.883,-

It was extreme close between the top GC contenders, see ranking below :

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/8ed052732fddd78a1b24c0eb2887c9f6.png) Giro d'Italia, final GC ;
1(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/jerseys/jersey_pink.png) Tor Steine   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 00"
2    Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   0: 03"
3    Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   0: 36"   
- - - - - - - - - -
4    Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   0: 58"   
5    Xavér Kövér   33   HTCHungria   1: 30"   
6    Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   1: 33"   
7    Faustino Arnau   31   SPORTLIFE   1: 51"   
8    Thies Neuhaus   28   QuintoYtapa   2: 13"   
9    Nazar Usakov   26   Elgrand   3: 09"   
10    Martine Perec   29   OphiukoCT   3: 12"   
- - - - - - - - - -
11    Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   3: 16"   
12    Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   3: 32"   
13    Adrian Glibin   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   3: 44"   
14    Phil Robinson   27   ICSluj   5: 36"   
15    Gustave Gloor   32   Turrones   5: 44"   
16    Harry Rombaut   31   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   6: 28"   
17    Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   6: 45"   
18    Ferdinand Tajan   31   ValeronIdolo   7: 20"   
19    Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   7: 30"   
20    Orencio Molinero   32   CajaRuralZamora    7: 51"   
- - - - - - - - - -
21    Mario Campos   31   LanihuliCycling    7: 54"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 21, 2022, 04:01:37 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/191b5bdfdfade94930708639639a8727.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

141 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Granberg ( 31 ), multi-bronze GC contender
142 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Taglioni ( 30 ), cobblehills
143 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Muntendam ( 32 ), silver hills-sprint
144 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Lamas ( 31 ), silver flat-hills
145 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Meijer ( 30 ), hills

Good luck everyone !  :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 22, 2022, 08:53:53 AM
Dauphiné stage 1, flat-cobble ;
40º  Granberg   0:56"
Helper Taglioni got 5x the hands-icon, and finished 5 sec. behind Granberg.

Dauphiné stage 2, hills-sprint ;
25º  Granberg   0:00"
Perfect helper's job of Muntendam who stayed with his teamcaptain in all five sections.

Dauphiné stage 3, flat-TT ;
35º  Granberg   2:47"

At the moment Granberg is 2ºGC on 1:01"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 22, 2022, 07:48:46 PM
Dauphiné stage 4, hills ;
12º  Muntendam ( free role )
26º  Granberg   0:39"
Excellent results !
Because Muntendam has just silver and Granberg has just bronze.
But not a good race of the 3 masterhelpers ; Lamas and Taglioni dropped already in  s2, and Meijer dropped in s4 = one section too soon.

Granberg is still 2ºGC, but lost 3 seconds, and now on 1:04" behind GC leader Almagro ( 32, Bikeos ).
It will be a podium-battle with Veneberg ( 24, Ophiuko ) and Falaleev ( 32, FaltososDeChigre ), both lost 0:03" on Granberg in this stage 4.
Falaleev seems to have an advantage with his silver sprint icon, and even the nr 6º Egemar can be a fierce rival with his golden sprint icon.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 23, 2022, 08:59:49 AM
Dauphiné stage 1, FCFCC  (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
28º  Tajan   0:37" (captain)
29º  Hummelsby   0:37" (helper)
71º Pensec 2:30" (free)

Dauphiné stage 2, FHFFhF (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)
35º  Espinar   0:00" (captain)
37º  Pensec   0:00" (helper)
71º Tajan 0:33" (free)

Dauphiné stage 3, flat-TT  (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)
54º  Pensec   3:15"
162º  Tajan   4:32"

Dauphiné stage 4, HHHHH (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)

17º  Tajan 0:29" (captain)
51º  Pensec   0:49" (free)

Dauphiné stage 5, FFFFF (flat sprint)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)

30º  Pensec   0:34" (free)
97º  Tajan 1:45" (captain)

Pensec, despite never riding as captain, finished in the top 10 GC.  8)   We were also happily surprised by the GC points scored by our cobbles-hills youngster Tajan. 

Final GC

1   Eudald Almagro   32   Bikeos   0: 00"   500   
2   Ottar Granberg   31   SPORTLIFE   1: 23"   400   
3   Spartak Falaleev   32   FaltososDeChigre   1: 38"   325
--------------------------------------------------------   
4   Håkon Egemar   25   ICSluj   1: 53"   275   
5   Joop Veneberg   24   OphiukoCT   1: 58"   250   
6   Tigran Tsarenko   24   °Peachy°Melocotons   2: 22"   225   
7   Pete Haber   27   Elgrand   2: 40"   200   
8   Yanis Pensec   30   LanihuliCycling   2: 51"   175   
9   Brian Walkins   28   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   2: 59"   150   
10   Nate Middleton   29   JGMTeam   3: 09"   125
--------------------------------------------------------   
11   Levan Lipko   32   Flyvende_hjul   3: 13"   100   
12   Marten Smeets   28   Villavante   3: 14"   90   
13   Rafael Angel Muñoz   32   FaltososDeChigre   3: 32"   80   
14   Pedro Saenz   30   JGMTeam   3: 36"   70   
15   Mous Tajan   25   LanihuliCycling   3: 39"   60
16   Ricky Elklint   30   ChronoTony   3: 41"   50
17   Fedir Madanov   26   °Peachy°Melocotons   3: 42"   40
18   Lyuvomir Fedyunin   26   MortoviaCycling   3: 43"   30
19   Sandro Matas   28   Villavante   3: 49"   20
20   Jurgen Aerts   29   LottoStelvio   4: 01"   10
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 23, 2022, 10:49:42 AM
Dauphiné stage 5, sprint ( storm ) ;
65º  Granberg   1:17"
Not a good start and not such a good race, but helper Muntendam did great by staying with Granberg in all 5 sections.

And the podium-rivals had difficulties too in this stormy sprint race ;
Veneberg (also bronze sprint icon) 1:45", Egemar(gold) 0:34" and Falaleev(silver) 0:59"
Looking at this, it was an excellent result of Granberg, because it was good enough to hold on to his 2º place in the GC. 8)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 23, 2022, 03:33:53 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/8e2fd4d4ee620c3f1192c94b40da9db9.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

The today bought Boyar and Harper are making their debut for my team.
Top buy Boyar ( 10,2 M ) is riding under the flag of Tanzania and with 0 races this season, he's not in topform yet.
Harper is a cheap buy ( 185 k ) and not suited for this TdS, but hopefully he can help a little bit in stages 2 and 4.
He is more to fill up my TdS-team, due to selection-issues with other cyclists concerning health or total number of races this season.

The goal is to compete for the GC with Conti. He was 5º in the Dauphiné of previous season, the only GC result on his palmares.
But this TdS seems a bit less suited. And I expect a more fierce competition now, because the Tour de France is right behind this TdS.

131 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), tour
132 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Viñas ( 32 ), tour
133 (https://i.imgur.com/xavQvw5.png) Boyar ( 29 ), tour
134 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Granberg ( 31 ), bronze hills-sprint
135 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Harper ( 32 ), hills

Good luck everyone ! :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 23, 2022, 10:52:00 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/8e2fd4d4ee620c3f1192c94b40da9db9.png)   (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

Old guy (OG) Van Passen is our GC hope.  We'd be delighted if he can podium for this small tour, but we also anticipate a hard battle from many TC-infused TDF hopefuls, so we shall see how he does.

201 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Van Passen ( 33 ), tour
202 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Espinar ( 25 ), silver hills/sprint
203 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Goedkoop ( 28 ), tour
204 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/portugal.jpg) Queiros ( 33 ), tour
205 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/ukrania.jpg) Karin ( 32 ), climb/hills



Swiss tour stage 1, FFFFF (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)

32º  Espinar   0:00" (helper)
58º  Van Passen   0:36" (captain)

A decent result for OG VP.  Only one GC contender, Schoonderwoerd of HTCHungria, was able to come in at 0:00" so he is the current front-runner for all the marbles.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 24, 2022, 11:12:50 PM
Swiss tour stage 2, HHFHF (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

28º  Queiros   0:29" (free)
89º  Van Passen   0:55" (captain)

Van Passen and three helpers were dropped in S2, which not the case for free-riding Queiros, who used the same EP for that section as OG VP.  Ten riders re-joined the lead group in flat S3, but my captain and his helpers were not among them.   :(   Van Passen then was isolated in S4 and S5, which was another  :( consequence.    The final result wasn't disastrous as many other GC contenders also finished @  0:55"

Swiss tour stage 3, FFFHD TT (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)

30º  Van Passen   1:03"

It is always good when my tour rider(s) can score points in a TT. 

Based on my calculations, going into today's (windy!) FFMHH race, the virtual/unofficial GC top 20 looks like this:

1.   Schoonderwoerd (HTCHungria) 0:00"
2.   Picoli    (FaltososDeChigre) 0:32"
3.   Azarov (CaptainOrange) 0:34"
4.   Camerlynck (QuintoYtapa) 0:45"
5.   Van Paassen (LanihuliCycling) 0:50"
6.   Rodenas (Marcatone_Due) 1:02"
7.   Miorlin (Shiro_Lions) 1:03"
8.   Bekker (team_piroshki) 1:04"
9.   Litenko (°Peachy°Melocotons) 1:08"
10.   Conti (SPORTLIFE) 1:15"
11.   Metthe (ICSluj) 1:17"
12.   Hansen (Codex) 1:22"
13.   Valis (Frier_Accounting) 1:24"
14.   Gloor (Turrones) 1:29"
15.   Vinas (SPORTLIFE) 1:32"
16.   Queiros (LanihuliCycling) 1:39"
17.  Kartashov (team_piroshki) 1:49"
18. Boyar (SPORTLIFE) 1:52"
19. De Jong (Bikeos) 1:52
20. Norwood (OphiukoCT) 1:53
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 25, 2022, 08:29:09 AM
Suisse stage 4, FFM^HH ( 2x wind ) ;
3º  Conti   0:13"
14º  Boyar ( helper )  0:39"
35º   Viñas ( free role )  0:56"
Excellent result of Conti. Before this stage, he finished just twice in the top10 ( 3º & 10º ) in his career, so this 3º place is a split record.
Boyar sacrificied his GC chances by being a helper. Viñas dissapointed because he gambled in s2 and dropped out of the front peleton.

No stage points in the first 3 TdS stages.
In sprint stage 1, Conti finished in the 2nd group, what was a very good result.
In hills-sprint stage 2, Conti finished in the 3rd group, what was not good and an unnecessary time loss of 26 seconds.
Boyar and Viñas had free roles in stages 1 + 2, and both finished twice in the 3rd group.
In TT stage 3 only Boyar was unlucky to have a mechanical breakdown.

GC Tour de Suisse after 4 stages ;
3º  Conti   1:15"
19º  Viñas    2:15"
20º  Boyar   2:18"
So far, Conti is doing better as expected, even despite the bad stage 2 result.
Also Boyar surprises because ; not in topform, mechanical breakdown in the time trial, 2x free roles and even 1x helper role.
Again he will be a helper in the decisive stage 5 with the brutal finish on the Tiefenbachferner = 14,3km with average of 10,3%. :o
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Aurora Australis on May 25, 2022, 11:37:29 AM
I can now confirm that this is effectively my last season of competing, as I have a contract to take over a supermarket in two weeks time.  All of my younger cyclists will become available for sale, the current 31-year-olds may or may not end their days in my team.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 25, 2022, 06:11:00 PM
I can now confirm that this is effectively my last season of competing, as I have a contract to take over a supermarket in two weeks time.  All of my younger cyclists will become available for sale, the current 31-year-olds may or may not end their days in my team.
Sad to see you go, AA.   Best to you in your supermarket and all other endeavors. 
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 25, 2022, 08:02:19 PM
Swiss tour stage 4, FFMHH (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

38º  Van Passsen   0:56" (captain)
40º  Queiros   1:05" (free)

With the prevailing windy conditions on my mind, I debated how to ride the two flat sections and finally decided to take an intentional drop.  With three concluding "dark" sections looming, I thought making up the time lost by Van Paassen was possible if the tactics were right.  As it turned out, after completing the two flats and going into S3 (mountain), VP was comfortably situated in group 2 @ 0:22" with all his EPs still to employ.  The problem was that his helpers could not help him so he rode the dark sections in isolation to finish @ 0:56".   With help in S3 or S4, he would have saved 9 to 13 seconds.

Swiss tour stage 5, FFFFM (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)

11º  Van Paassen   0:33"

This was (for once!) a good race for us.   VP got perfect help from Karin in the flats

The final GC top 20 is as follows:

1   Paul Schoonderwoerd   31   HTCHungria   0: 00"   
2   Fedir Litenko   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   0: 35"   
3   Simone Conti   30   SPORTLIFE   0: 55"
-----------------------------------------------------------------   
4   Yvo VanPaassen   33   LanihuliCycling   1: 13"   
5   Manuele Miorlin   30   Shiro_Lions   1: 18"   
6   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   1: 22"   
7   Arnfried Metthe   27   ICSluj   1: 23"   
8   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   1: 33"   
9   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   1: 50"   
10   Piero Mariotti   27   ValeronIdolo   2: 00"   
-----------------------------------------------------------------   
11   Lucien Faivre   27   Elgrand   2: 10"   
12   Mark Norwood   29   OphiukoCT   2: 29"   
13   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   2: 32"   
14   Ramon Jesus Rodenas   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 42"   
15   Mark Boyar   29   SPORTLIFE   2: 44"   
16   Ben Camerlynck   28   QuintoYtapa   2: 44"   
17   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   2: 52"   
18   Marcelo Bessa   30   Bergtoppers   2: 55"   
19   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   2: 56"   
20   Tigo Grein   29   OphiukoCT   3: 10"   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 25, 2022, 08:43:57 PM
I can now confirm that this is effectively my last season of competing, as I have a contract to take over a supermarket in two weeks time.  All of my younger cyclists will become available for sale, the current 31-year-olds may or may not end their days in my team.
Sad to see you go, AA.   Best to you in your supermarket and all other endeavors.
+1, best wishes AA ! :-*
And don't forget to insure the supermarket against gigantic bushfires and extreme floads. ;)


Suisse stage 5, flat-climb ;
6º  Conti   0:33"
29º  Boyar ( helper )  1:19"
45º  Viñas ( free role )  1:33"
Magnificent result thanks to a superb helper's job of Boyar in this hard race with small front groups  ; 49 - 27 - 31 - 31 - 2.
Free role Viñas could not follow the high pace in s2 despite using energy, and this too early drop caused a bad stage result.

Conti could hold on to his 3º place in the final GC, a very nice result ! 8)
Boyar and Viñas scored GC points too, see post of Kekipi :

Swiss tour stage 4, FFMHH (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

38º  Van Passsen   0:56" (captain)
40º  Queiros   1:05" (free)

With the prevailing windy conditions on my mind, I debated how to ride the two flat sections and finally decided to take an intentional drop.  With three concluding "dark" sections looming, I thought making up the time lost by Van Paassen was possible if the tactics were right.  As it turned out, after completing the two flats and going into S3 (mountain), VP was comfortably situated in group 2 @ 0:22" with all his EPs still to employ.  The problem was that his helpers could not help him so he rode the dark sections in isolation to finish @ 0:56".   With help in S3 or S4, he would have saved 9 to 13 seconds.

Swiss tour stage 5, FFFFM (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)

11º  Van Paassen   0:33"

This was (for once!) a good race for us.   VP got perfect help from Karin in the flats

The final GC top 20 is as follows:

1   Paul Schoonderwoerd   31   HTCHungria   0: 00"   
2   Fedir Litenko   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   0: 35"   
3   Simone Conti   30   SPORTLIFE   0: 55"
-----------------------------------------------------------------   
4   Yvo VanPaassen   33   LanihuliCycling   1: 13"   
5   Manuele Miorlin   30   Shiro_Lions   1: 18"   
6   Agapito Salcedo   29   Flyvende_hjul   1: 22"   
7   Arnfried Metthe   27   ICSluj   1: 23"   
8   Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   1: 33"   
9   Dada Azarov   28   CaptainOrange   1: 50"   
10   Piero Mariotti   27   ValeronIdolo   2: 00"   
-----------------------------------------------------------------   
11   Lucien Faivre   27   Elgrand   2: 10"   
12   Mark Norwood   29   OphiukoCT   2: 29"   
13   Aad De Jong   29   Bikeos   2: 32"   
14   Ramon Jesus Rodenas   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 42"   
15   Mark Boyar   29   SPORTLIFE   2: 44"   
16   Ben Camerlynck   28   QuintoYtapa   2: 44"   
17   Atila Bekker   32   team_piroshki   2: 52"   
18   Marcelo Bessa   30   Bergtoppers   2: 55"   
19   Daniel Alejandro Viñas   32   SPORTLIFE   2: 56"   
20   Tigo Grein   29   OphiukoCT   3: 10"   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 25, 2022, 09:01:46 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/ec365cb5b403c66bf9212fc15b3d4289.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

Conti is very bad in the 2 flat-cobble stages. Thé reason why I assume he cannot achieve a top GC result.
Perhaps I will go for stage results with my climbers, but my TdF-strategy is still in progress.
For now, just one thing is certain, these 5 will ride the Tour de France :

91 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) Szõnyi ( 28 ), climb
92 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), tour
93 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Caneschi ( 26 ), climb
94 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) Beckham ( 28 ), climb
95 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Arnau ( 31 ), tour

Good luck everyone ! :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 27, 2022, 11:11:41 AM
TdF stage 1, flat-cobble-sprint ;
100º  Conti   2:47"
Already isolated in s2 and he is very bad on the cobblestones.
But a teamcaptain role because maybe he can score a few GC points, despite 3x free roles in the pure mountain stages.

TdF stage 2, mountains ( 1x wind ) ;
2º  Szõnyi ( teamcaptain )  0:21"
14º  Caneschi ( helper )  1:35"
58º  Conti ( free role )  2:28" :(
A very bad race & result of Conti, caused by a mechanical breakdown in s1 what costed a lot of time throughout the whole race.

Szõnyi did well as not-favorite who could challenge all favorites, but to compete for the victory, he needed a s4 helper.
And helper Caneschi did a good job, but unfortunately he dropped in s4, just 0:09" behind the s4 front group of 6.
In that s4 front group of 6 were 4 isolated teamcaptains and 1 JGM-teamcaptain who had still a helper, what resulted in a JGM-victory.

TdF stage 3, flat-climb ( storm ) ;
22º  Conti   1:32"
As expected, it was a battlefield on the flat sections :  58 - 12 - 12 - 8 - 1.
Or maybe better to look at this stormy stage what the total combined size of groups 1 ánd 2 were :  135 - 58 - 38 - 16 - 2.

Beckham got a too risky free role, could not follow the s1 front group and finished outside the points ( 35º ).
It seemed that it was worth the very risky attempt, because teamcaptain Conti had 3 other helpers.
However, the full power starts of  Szõnyi and Caneschi were not good enough, and only Arnau could follow in s1.
In s2 the combi Conti-Arnau dropped to the 2nd group, despite both tried to anticipate on the expected extreme high pace in s2.
A sudden drop of helper Arnau in s3, caused that Conti had to do it on his own ánd missed out the important extra bonus.
Luckily he could stay in the same 2nd group of s3, but in s4 he was in the 3rd group with almost no time loss compared to s3.
A relative good final climb, because Conti likes to ride in 5ºC. But of course, this stage should have been tactically much better.

Conti is now 23ºGC on 2:03", and also in the next mountain stage he gets a free role.
So far 3 bad stages of Conti, and it gets more and more doubtfull if he can achieve his goal of scoring a few GC points.
Hopefully his other TdF goals will go better ; top results in stages 7 + 8.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 28, 2022, 07:00:02 AM
TdF stage 4, mountains ;
5º  Szõnyi ( teamcaptain )  0:00"
17º  Caneschi ( free role )  0:49"
59º  Conti ( free role )  1:37"
A good result of Szõnyi as not-favorite who could challenge the 4th- and 5th favorites.
Beckham did an excellent helper's job, so, Caneschi could score some extra points in a free role, thanks to his 2 active weather icons.

TdF stage 5, time trial HFFMM 33km ( 2x wind ) ;
15º  Arnau  0:23"
22º  Conti  0:30"

Conti is now 24ºGC on 3:10" and he will drop after the next cobble stage.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 29, 2022, 12:21:59 AM
TdF stage 3, flat-climb ( storm ) ;
22º  Conti   1:32"
As expected, it was a battlefield on the flat sections :  58 - 12 - 12 - 8 - 1.
Or maybe better to look at this stormy stage what the total combined size of groups 1 ánd 2 were :  135 - 58 - 38 - 16 - 2.
I was anxious to see how this stage played out.   My captain, Van Paassen, had split times of 0/27/55/41/99.   The eventual podium guys (Frol, Georgiev, Simsons) rode S1 - S4 in 0/0/0/0.  I found it interesting that in the top 30, only four others--Mattei (10th for the stage), Vaughn (17th), Vermeer (21st), Bush (29th)--rode 0/0/0/0 for S1 - S4.  Each of the four also took a more significant time loss (77 secs, 92 secs, 92 secs, 99 secs) in S5 than others in the top 30, which indicates to me that they likely spent 8 EPs in S1 - S4 and rode S5 with just 4 EPs.  I suppose it's also possible that a mechanical occurred in S5.   Also interesting was the ride of Groenendaal (9th on the stage), who had split times of 33/55/55/41/63.  Whereas many of us spent 7+ EPs in S1 and S2 to avoid being dropped, Groenendaal may have used much fewer (i.e. taken an intentional drop) in S1 and S2.  My guess is that he used less than 7 EPs for S1 -S4.  I've waited to comment about this race because it's taken that long for my angst to subside.   ;D         
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 29, 2022, 08:16:41 AM
I assume that almost everyone used the full 12 EP in the stormy FFFFM stage 3.
With exceptition of the favorites+almost favorites, and a few ( unsuccessful ) "daredevils".
I guess almost everyone learned from the flat-climb stages earlier this season, especially Tirreno stage 3 with 1x wind.
This TdF stage 3 had even 3x wind.

I also assume that every teamcaptain finished with 5 EP, because s5 is the by far most heavy section, and even thé decisive section.
Energy is much more effective when it is used in a heavy section.

But who knows, maybe one or a few teamcaptains gambled with 4 EP finish and profited of the faster slipstream of faster front groups.
Not even a bad tactical strategy with how the race unvolded ( again ),
perhaps even the best tactic if all flat sections went perfectly ; no waste of energy and the energy use was just good enough to follow.
We will never know what exactly happened and how everyone raced and if those tactics were good or bad.

I.m.o. more likely is that all teamcaptains gambled (somewhere)on the flat, instead of gambling with 4 EP in a brutal mountain s5 finish.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 29, 2022, 08:40:58 AM
TdF stage 6, flat-cobble ( 2x wind ) ;
96º  Conti   3:44"
He had help in the first two flat sections, but in cobble s3 it went wrong, helper Arnau was going a few seconds too fast, and also in s4.

TdF stage 7, MMMHF ( 1x wind ) ;
12º  Conti   0:42"
He had 4 helpers to get a top result, but his manager made a dumb mistake by making Conti the helper too, ups ! :-[

Info ; if the tactics concerning the roles are not right ( always needed are at least 1 teamcaptain and at least 1 helper ),
then the software let's your whole selection ride in free roles.
Also in this case, the 5x helper roles is not right, so, everyone got free roles.

This embarrassing mistake probably costed Conti 42 seconds.
Without the mistake he would have been 20ºGC instead of now 23ºGC.
Maybe this mistake does not even matter to his final GC result, because again he gets a free role in the pure mountains ( stage 10 ).
So, he has to perform in stage 9, otherwise this TdF is a disaster to Conti. With me to blame, and I guess  have to check the tactics now. ;D
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 29, 2022, 09:44:21 AM
This embarrassing mistake probably costed Conti 42 seconds.
Without the mistake he would have been 20ºGC instead of now 23ºGC.
Maybe this mistake does not even matter to his final GC result, because again he gets a free role in the pure mountains ( stage 10 ).
So, he has to perform in stage 9, otherwise this TdF is a disaster to Conti. With me to blame, and I guess  have to check the tactics now. ;D

In the current GC top 20 after stage 7, there are five gold icon climbers--Karatupov (8th @ 2:47), Vermeer (9th @ 2:48), Karstens (17th @ 4:14), Karpov (18th @ 4:16), and Prikulis (20th @ 4:25)--who will likely take substantial time losses (3 to 4 mins?) in stage 10 (HHHFH).   My guess is that the latter three will drop out of the top 20 to be replaced by riders like Conti.  It'll also be interesting to see if Karatupov and Vermeer, both just 24 years and both who can win stage 9, can survive.       
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 29, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Pfff, it is clear that the SPORTLIFE manager is not in topform, because I totally forgot about stage 10, hills.  :-[  :))
I thought the next race was stage 9 and after that the final stage in the mountains.
But the next race FM^MDF is stage 8, then mountain stage 9 and finally, hills stage 10.
Maybe "good news" to Conti, who now has one more desperate chance (in the hills) to finish in the final top 20 GC.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 29, 2022, 10:17:27 AM
Maybe "good news" to Conti, who now has one more desperate chance (in the hills) to finish in the final top 20 GC.
Probably I should delete the words "Maybe" and "desperate" in the quote above.
After all, Conti was GC in the recent Tour de Suisse, so, top20 GC in the TdF must be duable with this reputation achieved in Suisse.
I already told Conti that his SPORTLIFE-future is in jeopardy, if he does not achieve this. :)

Of course, I will forgive him the 42 seconds unneccessary time-loss that I myself caused.
And not important anyway, his possible top20 GC is not the main TdF goal, it is up to my climbers to score the big points in this TdF.
What is also not really important, because this season there is almost nothing at stake. Missing out on points is even no problem.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: ophiuko on May 29, 2022, 10:38:59 AM
TdF stage 3, flat-climb ( storm ) ;
22º  Conti   1:32"
As expected, it was a battlefield on the flat sections :  58 - 12 - 12 - 8 - 1.
Or maybe better to look at this stormy stage what the total combined size of groups 1 ánd 2 were :  135 - 58 - 38 - 16 - 2.
I was anxious to see how this stage played out.   My captain, Van Paassen, had split times of 0/27/55/41/99.   The eventual podium guys (Frol, Georgiev, Simsons) rode S1 - S4 in 0/0/0/0.  I found it interesting that in the top 30, only four others--Mattei (10th for the stage), Vaughn (17th), Vermeer (21st), Bush (29th)--rode 0/0/0/0 for S1 - S4.  Each of the four also took a more significant time loss (77 secs, 92 secs, 92 secs, 99 secs) in S5 than others in the top 30, which indicates to me that they likely spent 8 EPs in S1 - S4 and rode S5 with just 4 EPs.  I suppose it's also possible that a mechanical occurred in S5.   Also interesting was the ride of Groenendaal (9th on the stage), who had split times of 33/55/55/41/63.  Whereas many of us spent 7+ EPs in S1 and S2 to avoid being dropped, Groenendaal may have used much fewer (i.e. taken an intentional drop) in S1 and S2.  My guess is that he used less than 7 EPs for S1 -S4.  I've waited to comment about this race because it's taken that long for my angst to subside.   ;D       

I can confirm that Mattei used the 12 EPs on the first 4 sections. This stage went perfect for me as I have no interest for stage results but for the GC. Unfortunately Simsons's stages 1, 2 and 4 were terrible and therefore lost his chances of winning the Tour. Only a miracle could save that now, but I don't think Mariotti or Egle will fail.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 29, 2022, 07:14:38 PM
The stage under discussion: (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/martin.jpg)

I can confirm that Mattei used the 12 EPs on the first 4 sections. This stage went perfect for me as I have no interest for stage results but for the GC. Unfortunately Simsons's stages 1, 2 and 4 were terrible and therefore lost his chances of winning the Tour. Only a miracle could save that now, but I don't think Mariotti or Egle will fail.
Interesting about Mattei, the #1 flat climber in the game.  Now I can understand how/why he can use all 12 EPs in S1-4 and ride S5 at 0 and still finish 10th!   I also noted that another of your team, Norwood, had split times of 0/0/0/0/1:39, so I assume he, too, used 12 EPs for S1-S4 and rode as a helper for Simsons.   

My captain, VanPaassen, also finished with the same time as Norwood but, like probably most other captains, used 7EPS for S1-4 and employed 5 for S5.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 30, 2022, 02:56:42 PM
TdF stage 8, F(h)MMDF ;
4º  Conti   0:00"
Excellent result !

TdF stage 9, MMMMM ;
3º  Szõnyi   0:00"
26º  Caneschi ( helper )   1:33"
53º  Conti ( free role )   2:08"
To my big surprise, again Szõnyi was not a favorite.
But he could challenge the best 3 favorites, so I assume the climb competition is really close in GV.
Finishing in the breakaway group of just 3 climbers is good, and he came just a few centimeters short of being the stage victor.

Despite 3x free roles in the pure mountain stages, Conti is now 17ºGC on 5:32"
That is just 17 seconds ahead of the nr 21, so, Conti has to ride a good final stage to score some GC points.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 30, 2022, 08:08:27 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/ec365cb5b403c66bf9212fc15b3d4289.png)   (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

201 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Perry ( 31 ), climb
202 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/rusia.jpg) Ektov ( 31 ), tour
203 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/ukrania.jpg) Karin ( 32 ), climb
204 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/dinamarca.jpg) Hummelsby ( 33 ), cobbles
205 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) VanPaassen ( 33 ), tour

I selected a bunch of 30+somethings to ride this mountains-heavy rendering of the TDF.   Our hope is that VanPaassen has recovered enough from the disaster that was Paris Nice to do a top 10 GC here.


TdF stage 1, FCCCF; (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)
11º  Hummelsby   0:00" ( free )
63º  VanPaassen 2:20" (captain)

Was hoping that VP could have made the group that finished @ 1:44" but the tactics probably needed to be better to achieve that.


TdF stage 2, MMMMM (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
43º  VanPaassen ( captain )  2:28"
46º  Perry ( helper )  2:28"

Perry did a perfect job as helper but I got the tactics wrong for this race.  My biggest mistake was not having VP ride with 5 EPs for S5.  :(   If the tactics were better, he possibly could have finished 32 seconds faster @ 1:56".


TdF stage 3, FFFFM (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
30º  VanPaassen ( captain )  1:39"

As mentioned by Vos, there was a battle in the flats that resulted in just a handful of riders being able to ride S1 - S4 in 0/0/0/0.  I had one of my helpers use all 12 EPs in the flats but still did not get it right.   Better tactics might have netted a gain of 7 seconds for VanPaassen.


TdF stage 4, MMhMMD (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)
51º  VanPaassen ( captain )  1:18"
63º  Perry ( helper )  1:37"

The use of one less EP in S1 would have likely netted the same result (i.e. being in the lead group) and perhaps led to a better/higher finish for VP (@ 0:59" instead of @ 1:18"). 


TdF stage 5, time trial HFFMM 33km (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
11º  VanPaassen  0:19"
18º  Ektov  0:26


TdF stage 6, FFCCC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)
25º  Hummelsby (free)  0:58"
67º  VanPaassen (captain)   3:02"

I should have paid more attention to the weather, especially the wind, and expected much better results here. But the riders can only do what I assign them to do.   In S1, for example, 5 EPs for VanPassen was not enough to land him in the lead group, and I suspect one or two less EPs for S1 might have netted the same result (i.e. in 2nd group @ 0:33").   


TdF stage 7, MMMHF (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)
6º  VanPaassen ( captain)  0:00"
29º Karin ( helper ) 0:42"

I like when the tactics play out as I anticipate, and such was the case here.   :)


TdF stage 8, F(h)MMDF (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)
8º  VanPaassen ( captain)  0:00"

Another happy result for the captain.   :)


TdF stage 9, MMMMM  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)
32º  Perry ( helper )   1:45"
36º  VanPaassen ( captain )   1:45"

I was happy with this result, which meant, barring a catastrophe in stage 10, VanPaassen would achieve the goal of a top 10 GC.


TdF stage 10, HHHFH  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)
38º  Karin ( helper )   0:43"
48º  VanPaassen ( captain )   0:59"

VanPaassen finished 8th GC, which helped our team achieve the goal of a top 10, so we are happy about that.  Seconds saved here and there in preceding stages would have meant a final placement of a couple notches higher, but, in the end, we are glad to have survived this TDF.  Hats off to climber Abel Vermeer, 24,  of JGMTeam, who won stages 2 and 4, and rode credibly in the hills in stage 10 to preserve his place in the top 10.  Vermeer finished 6th GC @ 3:00" with tour riders Hansen (Codex) and my guy VanPassen right behind @   3:26" and 3:30", respectively.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 30, 2022, 09:57:32 PM
Unfortunately Simsons's stages 1, 2 and 4 were terrible and therefore lost his chances of winning the Tour. Only a miracle could save that now, but I don't think Mariotti or Egle will fail.
And a miracle did happen, or, more likely, expert tactics and superior rider skill led to the final result.  8)

Congrats to Simsons and OphikukoCT!

S24 TDF Final GC standings

1    Daumants Simsons   29   OphiukoCT   0: 00"   
2    Piero Mariotti   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 02"   
3    Viesturs Egle   27   ICSluj   0: 11"
-------------------------------------------------------   
4    Marcos Iriarte   31   Flyvende_hjul   1: 40"   
5    Paul Schoonderwoerd   31   HTCHungria   1: 55"   
6    Abel Vermeer   24   JGMTeam   3: 00"   
7    Ken Hansen   32   Codex   3: 26"   
8    Yvo VanPaassen   33   LanihuliCycling   3: 30"    ;D
9    Lucien Faivre   27   Elgrand   4: 11"   
10    Sebastiaan Groenendaal   31   Galletto   4: 53"
-------------------------------------------------------
11    Gor Karatupov   24   °Peachy°Melocotons   5: 17"
12    Andrea Serpellini   28   CaptainOrange   5: 24"
13    Simone Conti   30   SPORTLIFE   5: 35"
14    Indulis Plaudis   29   Wiggo_pupils   5: 49"
15    Manuele Miorlin   30   Shiro_Lions   5: 57"
16    Alessandro Picoli   31   FaltososDeChigre   5: 58"
17    Viktor Kartashov   32   team_piroshki   6: 23"
18    Noah Gesink   27   NukriumCycling   6: 24"
19    Denny Rabe   30   Marcatone_Due   6: 37"
20    Ruben Villena   32   Turrones   6: 41"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 31, 2022, 10:00:03 AM
TdF stage 10, hills ;
19º  Conti   0:27"
Good result, what even caused that Conti moved up 4 places in the final GC :

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/ec365cb5b403c66bf9212fc15b3d4289.png)
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/jerseys/jersey_yellow.png) Daumants Simsons ( 29, OphiukoCT )  --> congratulations !  8)
Yvo VanPaassen ( 33, LanihuliCycling )  --> congratulations with your best GC result in a big tour !  8)
13º  Simone Conti ( 30, SPORTLIFE )
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 31, 2022, 10:04:30 AM
Clasica San Sebastian ;
12º  Reigersman   0:24"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on May 31, 2022, 10:41:12 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/d3b3b3dd456bf24faf1cea8cfca6c56d.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE.

Title defender Ottar Granberg is not selected, because this BBT version is much less suited for him than in previous season.
It was not even in his season schedule, and with already 39 races he is of not much use as out-of-form helper.

In previous season a pretty strong BBT selection, and now it is the opposite.
Only Taglioni is selected again and suited for stage 4. Although he has no support and has to do it on his own.
Very cheap new buy Morse makes his debut for my team, but without a helper it might be impossible to score points in stage 2.
The remaining 3 places are for my climbers to gain extra experience, what is even the main goal in this BBT.  :o :-[ :))

71 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Taglioni ( 30 ), cobblehills
72 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg) Morse ( 24 ), silver sprint
73 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) Szõnyi ( 28 ), climb / xp
74 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) Beckham ( 28 ), climb / xp
75 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Lewis ( 25 ), climb / xp

Good luck everyone ! :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: ophiuko on May 31, 2022, 04:53:19 PM
Thanks Kekipi and Vos. Indeed the miracle happened on the stage 9, which was totally unexpected for me. It was extremely tight, Mariotti and Egle were excellent competitors.

Let's hope I can keep the winning rate. Next season my second generation make 24yo and it is going to be my first season ever fully competing.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on May 31, 2022, 06:52:31 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/d3b3b3dd456bf24faf1cea8cfca6c56d.png)   (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling.

71 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Tajan ( 25 ), cobblehills
72 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Espinar ( 25 ), silver sprint
73 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/dinamarca.jpg) Hummelsby ( 33), cobbles
74 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colombia.jpg) Millan ( 25 ), cobblehills
75 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Green ( 34 ), cobbles

None of the ones selected can TT, but that is probably a dilemma many with GC aspirations face.  Otherwise, we hope to get decent stage results and perhaps some GC points from Tajan and/or Hummelsby, but doing so will not be easy.   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 02, 2022, 07:47:25 PM
BinckBank Tour ;
Taglioni dissapointed, he could not even score points in his speciality and finished as 39º in stage 4.
The honor of SPORTLIFE was saved by the Australian Morse ; 27º in stage 2.
He already left my team for 9 times the amount that I paid for Morse 4 days ago.
Now let's hope that my Vuelta selection scores more than the total of 13 points in this BBT. :))
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 03, 2022, 03:29:15 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/c8892128eff206aeb674bcc6880a73a6.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

111 (https://i.imgur.com/xavQvw5.png) Boyar ( 29 ), tour
112 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Reigersman ( 29 ), hillsclimb
113 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Zeppi ( 31 ), tour
114 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Caneschi ( 26 ), climb
115 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), tour

Good luck everyone ! :)
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on June 04, 2022, 07:36:06 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/c8892128eff206aeb674bcc6880a73a6.png)   (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/images/newest2.jersey.lanihuli.png)selection Lanihuli Cycling

211 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Wagemans ( 28 ), tour
212 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Tajan ( 25 ), hills/cobbles
213 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) Lyka ( 30 ), climb/hills
214 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/ukrania.jpg) Karin ( 32 ), climb/hills
215 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Haan ( 31 ), tour

After 4 stages, Haan is 9th GC @ 1:05".   He will ride with diminished form in the last three stages, so it will be a challenge to keep him in the top 10.  In Stage 3 (MDHHM), instead of riding Haan as captain, I gave him a free role and went for a stage result with Lyka (who did okay and finished 9th).  That decision probably cost Haan 20 seconds or so in the GC, but that's okay.  Fortunately, Haan will be in max form for the upcoming mountain stages (S6=MMMMM and S7=HFMFM), but he will not have a TC boost, so, particularly for S6, we are hoping his helpers can come through so he does not lose massive time. 

== GC Top 20 after stage 4 ==

1    Tigo Grein   29   OphiukoCT   0: 00"   
2    Lucio Cappanari   26   MarquinaTeam   0: 23"   
3    Piero Mariotti   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 52"
---------------------------------------------------------
4    Aziz Kavalerov   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   0: 53"   
5    Lukas Streller   30   ChronoTony   0: 54"   
6    Koen VanAmerongen   28   QuintoYtapa   0: 55"   
7    Raitis Olte   31   FaltososDeChigre   1: 04"   
8    Marcelo Bessa   30   Bergtoppers   1: 04"   
9    Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   1: 05"   
10    Mark Boyar   29   SPORTLIFE   1: 08"
---------------------------------------------------------
11    Elton Fevola   29   Bikeos   1: 14"   
12    Andrejs Podnieks   27   ICSluj   1: 36"   
13    Hector Zamora   29   LottoStelvio   1: 41"   
14    Tristan Min   32   Flyvende_hjul   1: 55"   
15    Filippo Pannucchi   30   Marcatone_Due   2: 02"   
16    Elias Bossov   26   MarquinaTeam   2: 12"   
17    Freek Schoonjans   29   Wiggo_pupils   2: 29"   
18    Oleg Danylovskyi   28   MortoviaCycling   2: 29"   
19    Juan Daniel Ayuso   28   Elgrand   2: 33"   
20    Angelo Zeppi   31   SPORTLIFE   2: 34"      
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 05, 2022, 01:37:20 PM
Vuelta stage 2, hills-sprint ( storm ) ;
11º  Boyar   1:03"

Vuelta stage 3, hillsclimb ;
5º  Boyar   0:22"
23º  Reigersman ( helper )   0:51"
30º  Zeppi ( free role )   0:58"

My team did not score points in hills stage 1 and also not in both TT stages 4 & 5.

Zeppi had a mechanical breakdown in stage 5.
Despite this, I hope he surprises in the GC in free roles, because he likes the cobblestones (= important in stages 8 & 9 & 10 ).
In contrast to teamcaptain Boyar, who will struggle there.
But Zeppi was a recent buy of 4 days ago, and therefore no TC bonus.
Boyar is also a new buy this season, he is 12 days in my team and this to him not so suited Vuelta was his only TC possibillity.
He really has to do amazing in the upcoming 2 mountain stages, to try to compete for a final top10 GC result.
Perhaps the competition is too strong, because he should have been higher ranked by now to compensate his cobble-weakness.

Vuelta TOP 11 GC, after 5 stages ;
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/jerseys/jersey_red.png)Tigo Grein   29   OphiukoCT   0: 00"
  Lucio Cappanari   26   MarquinaTeam   0: 27"
  Piero Mariotti   27   ValeronIdolo   0: 33"
- - - - - - - - - -
  Raitis Olte   31   FaltososDeChigre   0: 43"
  Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   0: 47"
  Lukas Streller   30   ChronoTony   0: 52"
  Marcelo Bessa   30   Bergtoppers   0: 56"
  Koen VanAmerongen   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 17"
  Hector Zamora   29   LottoStelvio   1: 27"
10º  Aziz Kavalerov   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   1: 29"
- - - - - - - - - -
11º  Mark Boyar    29   SPORTLIFE    1:32"
- - - - - - - - - -
21º  Angelo Zeppi ( free roles )    31   SPORTLIFE    2: 51" 
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 06, 2022, 07:55:16 AM
Vuelta stage 6, mountains ( 1x wind ) ;
6º  Boyar   0:38"
30º  Reigersman ( helper )   1:37"
Masterhelper Caneschi had a complete off-day, but luckily back-up helper Reigersman stepped up and did a great job in the first 3 sections.
He even launched his teamcaptain into the s4 breakaway of just 3 cyclists.
Of course, Boyar was overtaken in s5 by real climb specialists, but a 6º place is a great result.

Vuelta stage 7, HFMFM ( storm ) ;
4º  Boyar   0:20"
To my big surprise the SPORTLIFE teamcaptain could not follow the s1 front group, and helpers Conti and Reigersman were in the front.
Also surprising ; Boyar could not return in s2, s3 and s4.
Too bad, because he should have been in the wheel of Reigersman who was in the s4 breakaway of just 10 cyclists.
Fortunately, out of form back-up helper Conti joined him in the 2nd group of s4, and therefore Boyar had an excellent final climb.
But very unexpected that he was riding almost the whole race isolated,
That Boyar (with active weather icon) was underperforming was shown by Conti, who had 95 form + much and much lower race GV.

Vuelta GC after 7 stages = 5º  Boyar   1:36"
But he fears the final 3 stages due to the cobblestones in it.
Free role Zeppi dropped to 27º GC on 5:39"
It is uncertain if he can score a few GC points, because he drops to 95 form in stage 9.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on June 06, 2022, 07:01:05 PM
Vuelta stage 5, FFFHH TT (23k) (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)

15º  Haan   1:04"

Our captain (six stars TT and Hills) did not score in the ST5 flat TT but did in this one.  :)

Vuelta stage 6,  MMMMM (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

33º  Haan   1:37"

Lyka or Karin would have probably scored if I had rode either as captain (or as free) but I decided to enlist them as helpers for Haan so that he could maintain his GC place. 

Vuelta stage 7, HFMFM (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

15º  Haan   0:41"

This was a good result given Haan's lack of TC oomph.   Going into the final three stages, which all feature cobbles, not a strength for our captain, we hope to maintain a place in the GC top 10.    As I mentioned before, Haan will ride with 95 form for stages 9 and 10, so that will add to his struggle against other GC guys.

Vuelta GC top 20 after 7 stages

1    Lucio Cappanari   26   MarquinaTeam   0: 00"   
2    Tigo Grein   29   OphiukoCT   1: 11"   
3    Lukas Streller   30   ChronoTony   1: 16"
---------------------------------------------------------
4    Koen VanAmerongen   28   QuintoYtapa   1: 31"   
5    Mark Boyar   29   SPORTLIFE   1: 36"   
6    Elton Fevola   29   Bikeos   2: 04"   
7    Aziz Kavalerov   28   °Peachy°Melocotons   2: 06"   
8    Wilco Haan   31   LanihuliCycling   2: 09"   
9    Piero Mariotti   27   ValeronIdolo   2: 11"   
10    Hector Zamora   29   LottoStelvio   2: 20"
---------------------------------------------------------
11    Oleg Danylovskyi   28   MortoviaCycling   2: 24"   
12    Andrejs Podnieks   27   ICSluj   2: 25"   
13    Tristan Min   32   Flyvende_hjul   2: 37"   
14    Raitis Olte   31   FaltososDeChigre   2: 44"   
15    Juan Daniel Ayuso   28   Elgrand   3: 19"   
16    Marcelo Bessa   30   Bergtoppers   3: 38"   
17    Kaido Kriit   28   CaptainOrange   3: 55"   
18    Elias Bossov   26   MarquinaTeam   4: 37"   
19    Filippo Pannucchi   30   Marcatone_Due   4: 55"   
20    Fernando Luis Corral   29   Bikeos   4: 55"

Twelve (12) riders in the current top 20 have the (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinbronce.jpg) icon, so they have an advantage over the other GC contenders for the final three stages.  Shuffling will occur, no doubt.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on June 07, 2022, 02:36:04 AM
Vuelta stage 8, HHFCCh (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

29º  Tajan (free)   0:23"
76º  Haan (captain)   1:25"

Haan fell a couple places in the GC and now sits in 10th @ 2:23".   Next up are stages 9 (CCCFF) and 10 (Ch x 5), with Haan riding both with 100/95 H/F.  :( 


Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 07, 2022, 08:41:43 AM
An good damage-control race of Boyar(+helpers) in cobblehills stage 8. He finished as 67º on 1:15"
As expected Boyar had to do it on his own in flat-cobble-sprint stage 9, and this was an unlucky race.
Because he had a crucial mechanical breakdown in s4 and finished as 2nd of a group. Almost certain he lost 0:26" extra due to bad luck.
Boyar finished as 74º on 2:12" and dropped to 8ºGC on 2:38".

Free role GC contender Zeppi was 59º on 0:56" in stage 8.
In stage 9 his form dropped to 95, what had a big negative impact on his performance ; 62º on 1:46".
Zeppi is now 17ºGC on 5:57".
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 07, 2022, 07:26:39 PM
Vuelta stage 10, cobblehills ( 2x wind ) ;
64º  Zeppi ( free role )   1:59"
81º  Boyar   2:53"
The SPORTLIFE-teamcaptain had no help and got a mechanical breakdown in this race,
what maybe costed him a final top 10 GC because Boyar came 10 seconds short to achieve this.
Zeppi moved up one place, and scored GC points despite all stages in free roles & without TC & last two stages with 95 form.

Vuelta final GC =
11º  Boyar   4:24"
16º  Zeppi   6:49"
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 07, 2022, 08:08:47 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/6ad370c2f0082677ae6a24ac35d22a15.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

Another recent new buy of a golden tour cyclist makes his debut in my team ;
Mike Milne ( 8,2 M ) was 8º in Catalunya this season in his previous team QuintoYtapa.
What is even the only result on his palmares, hopefully he can add some more good results next season.

But this Giro di Lombardia selection is posted as a tribute to Lasse Rønneberg.
Therefore he gets the backnumber that ends on 1, but of course he will not be the teamcaptain.
He was bought a few days ago to put him in my hall of fame.
His palmares in my team ; 5x GC podiumplaces little tours, 2x 5º GC big tours, 4º Frankfurt, and many other top10 results.
Victories = 4 stages( incl. 1x CFF record ) + Norwegian champion + Catalunya + Bronze Bike. 8)

111 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Rønneberg ( 34 ), tour
112 (https://i.imgur.com/xavQvw5.png) Boyar ( 29 ), tour
113 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Reigersman ( 29 ), hillsclimb
114 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), tour
115 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Milne ( 28 ), tour

(https://i.imgur.com/BuhkpTm.jpeg)
Lasse Rønneberg ; born in Alesund, Norway
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 08, 2022, 09:51:58 AM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/6ad370c2f0082677ae6a24ac35d22a15.png)   (https://i.imgur.com/GvIPZ8B.png)selection SPORTLIFE

Another recent new buy of a golden tour cyclist makes his debut in my team ;
Mike Milne ( 8,2 M ) was 8º in Catalunya this season in his previous team QuintoYtapa.
What is even the only result on his palmares, hopefully he can add some more good results next season.

But this Giro di Lombardia selection is posted as a tribute to Lasse Rønneberg.
Therefore he gets the backnumber that ends on 1, but of course he will not be the teamcaptain.
He was bought a few days ago to put him in my hall of fame.
His palmares in my team ; 5x GC podiumplaces little tours, 2x 5º GC big tours, 4º Frankfurt, and many other top10 results.
Victories = 4 stages( incl. 1x CFF record ) + Norwegian champion + Catalunya + Bronze Bike. 8)

111 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/noruega.jpg) Rønneberg ( 34 ), tour
112 (https://i.imgur.com/xavQvw5.png) Boyar ( 29 ), tour
113 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) Reigersman ( 29 ), hillsclimb
114 (https://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Conti ( 30 ), tour
115 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) Milne ( 28 ), tour

(https://i.imgur.com/BuhkpTm.jpeg)
Lasse Rønneberg ; born in Alesund, Norway

15º  Boyar
26º  Reigersman ( free role )
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/gregario.png) Rønneberg ( helper ) got the hands symbols in s3 + s4, an excellent last CFF race of this SPORTLIFE-legend.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Vos on June 09, 2022, 09:19:33 AM
Leeds-Harrogate WC ;
19º  Muntendam ( silver )   0:00"


SPORTLIFE finished as 12º this season 24, what is the worst season ever of my team in all 23 div1-seasons.
Not due to the ranking, because in 3 seasons there was a lower ranking, although a long time ago ; s3=16º, s4=14º, s5=13º.
But now the worst season ever because for the first time nothing was won with my team.
It is even the first season without a stage victory, and the 2nd time in history that the Australian championship is not achieved.

This s24 was not entirely without celebrating, because as Australian NT manager = a NT race victory + the NT world championship. 8)
It is even the 11th world championship of Australia !
Due to lack of success in s24 with my own team, it is the best to highlight my impressive NT palmares ; :)
I was 9x the Australian NT manager, what resulted in 2x 2nd and 7x world champion.

Hopefully a better next season 25 for SPORTLIFE, and the goal is to get at least 1 victory or 1 jersey or 1 price.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Aurora Australis on June 09, 2022, 12:35:29 PM
Well my team apparently did the goods in the TT WC without me, with a nice 1-2 from our seniors in the team's final full season.
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on June 09, 2022, 07:18:31 PM
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/leedswc.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg)

For future reference, this is how the WC road race went, with 190 riders entered:

S1 --  51 riders @ 0:00 and 79 (including 4 from my team) @ 0:22"   

S2 --  43 riders @ 0:00" and 60 (including 3 from my team) @ 0:25"

S3 --  24 riders @ 0:00",  46 (including 2 from my team) @ 0:17", and 22 @ 0:42"

S4 --  53 riders (including 2 from my team) @ 0:00" and 26 @ 0:35"

Final result (top 30)

1º     Pavlo Fetisov   31   °Peachy°Melocotons   0: 00"   
2º     Camilo Castilla   28   Spitz   0: 00"   
3º   Lyuvomir Fedyunin   26   MortoviaCycling   0: 00"   
4º   Clovis Beart   30   LottoStelvio   0: 00"   
5º   Jacco VanSwieten   29   Yvo_Meppelink_ProCycling   0: 00"   
6º   Marten Smeets   28   Villavante   0: 00"   
7º   Wybe Heijmans   25   Rekutxuteam   0: 00"   
8º   Gus VandeVelde   31   FaltososDeChigre   0: 00"
9º   Tyler Daily   29   ValeronIdolo   0: 00"   
10º   Mycola Yeliseev   25   MarquinaTeam   0: 00"   
11º   Levente Gábor   30   Álvaro_Pino_Boys   0: 00"   
12º   Kurt Kastrup   29   CaptainOrange   0: 00"   
13º   Lev Feofanov   31   Wiggo_pupils   0: 00"   
14º   Alan Planas   29   ICSluj   0: 00"   
15º   Sammy Robert   26   Flyvende_hjul   0: 00"   
16º   Pedro Saenz   30   JGMTeam   0: 00"   
17º   Ismel Tlisov   30   Bikeos   0: 00"   
18º   Kalev Tuum   29   MortoviaCycling   0: 00"   
19º   Sem Muntendam   32   SPORTLIFE   0: 00"   
20º   Pete Haber   27   Elgrand   0: 00"   
21º   Teodoro Marques   32   team_piroshki   0: 00"   
22º   Yanis Pensec  LanihuliCycling   0: 00"
23º   Eldar Lachugin   26   Spitz   0: 00"   
24º   Laurits Berg   30   Marcatone_Due   0: 00"
25º   Birger Rogstad   28   Villavante   0: 00"   
26º   Mikhail Zdorov   31   Shiro_Lions   0: 00"   
27º   Jorn Arrat   28   SentinelChickens   0: 00"   
28º   Ralf Scheffer   29   Yvo_Meppelink_ProCycling   0: 00"   
29º   Bela Quaskov   31   °Peachy°Melocotons   0: 00"   
30º   Esteban Saxer   25   CobbleCrushers   0: 00"   

This race brought season 24 to an end, with a final tally of 5444 points earned for our squad and a final placement of 24th in the team standings.  So we achieved the goal of a top 30 placement (and non-relegation).  :D   

We now will proceed to Season 25 with the same goal plus an added goal of a podium place in one of the 91 races and in one of the small tours.   
Title: Re: Season 24
Post by: Kekipi on June 09, 2022, 07:35:11 PM
Well my team apparently did the goods in the TT WC without me, with a nice 1-2 from our seniors in the team's final full season.
No doubt about doing the goods.  The 3010 points earned by you guys is damn impressive.  Congrats! and I hope you continue to do the goods in your future undertakings.   :) :)