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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by Vos on Today at 10:38:28 AM »
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previous winners ; Vos ( 22 + 19 ), Kalarratas ( 21 ), Cosminelul ( 20 ), Averatalm ( 18 ), oldmen ( 17 ).

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CFF-League : ALL TIME RANKING CYCLING MONUMENTS
( as always, when there is an equal amount of victories, the one who won last will be ranked higher )

1    Vos   9x  ( LBL 23, PR 23, LOM 22, PR 22, MSR 22, MSR 20, LOM 19, MSR 19, MSR 17 )
2    Kalarratas   5x  ( RVV 22, LOM 21, MSR 21, LBL 18, PR 18 )  --> = the winner of all 5 different monuments !  8)
3    Animatoca   2x  ( LBL 22, PR 21 )
4    Cosminelul   2x  ( RVV 21, LOM 20 ) 
5    pizzaboys   2x  ( PR 19, RVV 17 )
6    Averatalm   2x  ( LOM 18, MSR 18 )
7    Patrick Kok   1x  ( RVV 23 )
8    Vlominck   1x  ( MSR 23 )
9    ophiuko   1x  ( LBL 21 )
10 Sjiz   1x  ( RVV 20 )
11 Xavier Giné   1x  ( LBL 20 )
12 WinterIsComing   1x  ( LBL 19 )
13 AJFactoryCycling   1x  ( RVV 19 )
14 Ciscoboss96   1x ( RVV 18 )
15 oldmen   1x  ( LOM 17 )
16 MarnixStar   1x  ( LBL 17 )
17 cavetroid   1x  ( PR 17 )
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NT Teams / Re: Australia s34
« Last post by Vos on October 02, 2023, 01:56:45 PM »
RACE 7 : Breskens

27ºC

Breskens, the Netherlands,
The start and finish is in the Netherlands, but almost the whole race is in Belgium.
It is up to Pernom to try to get an excellent result in this final race where a WC title is at stake.
What would be a very surprising result, looking at the general strenght of Australia and looking at this not so suited NT calendar.
But so far this season, all NT races went (more than-)very well, and hopefully that is also the case in the crucial final NT race.

All 8 Australians with a golden flat-cobble icon are selected already.
The last one will be selected later, and probably it will be the silver nr 9 in my estimated race GV ranking.

Australia NT selection :

Bob Pernom ( 30 ) TeamEuroscalt
Kobe Duncan ( 25 ) TramontanaTeam
Gilbert Ray ( 31 ) Thorboassonarvesen
Angus Dixon ( 27 ) ICSluj
Rick Sand ( 26 ) Galletto
Markus Harris ( 30 ) CajaRuralZamora
Dave Adams ( 30 ) Kroton
Gilbert Logsdon ( 28 ) Blanes
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NT Teams / Re: Australia s34
« Last post by Vos on October 02, 2023, 01:33:34 PM »
8    Oliver Lewis      26   0: 09"   140      azerite
15    Virgil Seaman      29   0: 15"   70      Álvaro_Pino_Boys

Very good results !  8)
The season ranking looks promising now, because a podium place should be achievable and Australia can even battle for a WC title.

TOP 5 season ranking with 1 more race to go =

1.    1.685
2.    1.680  :)
3.    1.545
4.    1.095
5.      910
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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by Vos on October 02, 2023, 09:36:09 AM »
SEASON TR0PHIES 2023
( the only rule= when there is an equal amount of victories, the person who won last will be ranked higher )

TOP 12 Divine Champions Trophy

1 ophiuko   15
2 Vos   15
3Mitte   7
4 Patrick Kok   7
5 Kalarratas   5
6 Animatoca   3
7 Vlominck   2
8Aurora Australis   1
9 PieterJanVB   1
10Averatalm   1
11 MarnixStar   1
12 HtcHun   1

TOP 8 Chief of Classics Trophy

1 Vos   22
2 ophiuko   19
3 Kalarratas   7
4Mitte   5
5 Vlominck   4
6 Patrick Kok   3
7 WinterIsComing   3
8 pizzaboys   1

TOP 26 Emperor of Stage Wins Trophy 
( including prologue )

1 Vos   78
2 ophiuko   62
3 Patrick Kok   45
4 Kalarratas   39
5Mitte   33
6 Vlominck   32
7 Animatoca   24
8 PieterJanVB   10
9 Combuijs   8
10 pizzaboys   8
11Aurora Australis   7
12 GaoYao   6
13 HtcHun   6
14 MarnixStar   4
15 ZG   4
16 WinterIsComing   4
17Averatalm   3
18 AJFactoryCycling   3
19 5o&Tapa   3
20 ValeronIdolo   3
21 Foeke   2
22 B.E-L   2
23 BrotasTeam   2
24 edu5   1
25 Sjiz   1
26 Teacher   1

TOP 12 Royal Sprint Trophy

1 Vos   16
2 ophiuko   14
3 Patrick Kok   12
4Mitte   4
5 Kalarratas   4
6 Animatoca   3
7 HtcHun   2
8 pizzaboys   1
9 PieterJanVB   1
10 MarnixStar   1
11 GaoYao   1
12 Vlominck   1

TOP 14 King of the Mountains Trophy

1 Kalarratas   9 
2 Vos   8
3 ophiuko   8
4 Vlominck   6
5 Animatoca   5
6Mitte   4
7 Patrick Kok   4
8 PieterJanVB   3
9Aurora Australis   1
10 Sjiz   1
11 MarnixStar   1
12 pizzaboys   1
13 Combuijs   1
14 GaoYao   1

TOP 11 Prince of Youth Trophy

1 ophiuko   22 
2 Vos   10
3 Vlominck   8
4 Animatoca   7
5Mitte   6
6 Patrick Kok   6
7 Kalarratas   4
8Aurora Australis   1
9 PieterJanVB   1
10 ValeronIdolo   1
11 WinterIsComing   1
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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by Vos on October 02, 2023, 09:20:27 AM »
 
A thrilling peleton sprint in stage 6, where, due to the boni-seconds, also the GC victory was at stake for Aular, Kristoff and Hayter.
GC leader Aular was in 2nd position with just 200 meters to go, but he crashed hard as only one of the peleton.
Hayter was not good enough / positioned too far behind, but Kristoff sprinted for stage victory ánd GC victory.
But Kristoff finished as 2nd because Stewart was much faster and celebrated his very first pro-victory.
The unfortunate and injured Aular walked to the finishline, but he won the GC, his biggest victory of his career.
Final GC = 1st Aular 0:00", 2nd Kristoff 0:03", 3rd Hayter 0:07"

CFF League stage 6 winner = Vos  :)

GC winner = Mitte  8)
Vos wins the sprint jersey.
Animatoca wins the mountain jersey.
Mitte wins also the youth jersey.

Oh nooo !  Despite winning the final stage, I lost the GC lead, and Mitte won ( due to more GC points ) with just 2 points.  :'( :o :))
This could be decisive in the Divine Champions Trophy ;
ophiuko has the same total of tour victories, but he is leading because he won as last ( Langkawi ).
Hopefully the tours in Türkiye and/or Guangxi will be opened to join, then I have still chance to win the most prestigious season trophy.



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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by ophiuko on October 01, 2023, 11:19:36 AM »
It seems like WCS organisers are on holidays these days. They have included only 1 of the 15 ProSeries classics programmed for September and October, giving me zero chance to come back in the Chief of Classics Trophy because only 2 classics programmed (Lombardia and Paris-Tours)  :'( Hopefully I will have chances for the Divine Champions Trophy
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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by Vos on October 01, 2023, 02:54:14 AM »
  Syritsa wins stage 8. Final GC = 1st Carr 0:00", 2nd Cepeda 0:49", 3rd Castrillo 0:58"

CFF League stage 8 winner = ophiuko  8)

GC winner = ophiuko  8)
ophiuko wins also the sprint jersey.
Vos wins the mountain jersey.
Mitte wins the youth jersey.

  Aular wins stage 5 and takes the GC lead.

CFF League stage 5 winner = Mitte  8)
Vos is still the GC leader with 1 more stage to go.
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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by Vos on September 30, 2023, 03:22:51 PM »
  Mohorič wins stage 4. New GC leader is Sheffield, but the GC is still very close.

CFF League stage 4 winner = ophiuko  8)
Vos is still the GC leader with 2 more stages to go.
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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by AJFactoryCycling on September 29, 2023, 12:42:39 PM »
I don't think you can have a "the best TTer of all times" performance in a TT in the TdF, and then not using these TT skills for any other race (including TT WC), any other year. Either you have these skills or you don't and a topform doesn't push you from being a top10-top5 TTer to the best of all times. Maybe top a top3 or winning, but not winning with 3 min advantage over other top TTers. I didn't believe it when it happen, still don't believe and I don't think there is an explanation that will make it believe it. If Vingegaard shows up in a TT WC and wins it, then I'll start believing.

It is true that Roglic and Vingegaard in theory should have been (as they were) much better than all their rivals. Kuss gained a great advantage in the stage where he was in the breakaway, but still after that he was the third best climber, better than all the other rivals that supposedly had prepared La Vuelta better and hadn't riden Giro and Tour. Anyway, I admit that Kuss's performance is believable. I agree that Jumbo Visma's tactics and technical aspects during the races are way better than other teams'.

Didn't see your message till now.

Now you're talking about something different, the TT performance of Vingegaard. Okay I can agree on that one, I was absolutaly amazed by that performance since I didn't expect that one. BUT after seeing an analyzing video from an Youtuber I could understand how it was possible, but I still can't believe the big time gaps, so on that single stage I agree with you. Some factors to take in consideration: it was more a climb TT than a flat TT, in this kind of TT's you always expect Vingegaard, Roglic, Pogacar and Evenepoel in front of the TT specialist (Cavanga in the top 10 was actually weirder to me than Vingegaard winning). Also Vingegaard is a more technical rider than people think, his bike handling skills are amazing. He won 1 sec in almost all corners in that TT, and it was a very technical TT, the anlayzing video showed this. Also the TT bike of Jumbo is better than the one from UAE, also all small factors (like a lot of bikes on the roof of the following car), testing etc. It's all better in the Jumbo team and in TT's that has the most influence. Also it was a TT in the 3th week which favors Vingegaard, Vingegaard seems to recover better than all other riders which makes him the most dangerous GC guy. In top form he is a top 10 TT rider and in the 3th week I think only Evenepoel, Ganna en Pogacar can challenge him in a TT, he proved this 2 years in a row now. So that he won is not that shocking to me (I even predicted him as stage winner in a TdF poule), but I agree the difference was insane and hard to believe.

And do I think Vingegaard can become WC ITT champion? Yes absolutely, just like Roglic could win the Olympic TT. But not a flat one against Ganna/Evenepoel. A technical one with climbing in it he can win in peak form.

And to see 3 guys on a podium in a GT is weird yes. But normally Remco would've been between them, and Pogacar wasn't there. The other riders are simply not on the level of Roglic and Vingegaard. Kuss was a surprise, escpecially in his 3th! grand tour, that he could climb with the best was known. But his Vuelta win was a big surprise for me. But yeah, I do think it's believable. Maybe I'm wrong, time will tell, but for know I don't see reason to not trust that team.
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General / Re: WCS 2023
« Last post by Vos on September 29, 2023, 08:43:25 AM »
  de Kleijn wins stage 6.

CFF League stage 6 winner = Vos  :)
ophiuko is still the GC leader.

  Parisini wins stage 3, and Lund is the new GC leader.

CFF League stage 3 winner = ophiuko  8)
Vos is still the GC leader halfway this tour.

  Weemaes wins stage 7.

CFF League stage 7 winner = Kalarratas  8)
ophiuko is still the GC leader with 1 more stage to go.
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