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CFFantasy S22
« on: January 11, 2022, 12:02:58 PM »
CFFantasy S22

RULES:
Choose 15 cyclists that add up to 45⭐, following these star ratings:

⭐: up to 860 wage
⭐⭐: up to 1500 wage
⭐⭐⭐: up to 4000 wage
⭐⭐⭐⭐: up to 8000 wage
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐: 8000+ wage

Cyclists that are more than 32 yo will be cheaper, and the following stars will be substracted to those corresponding by wage:

33 yo: -⭐; 34 yo: -⭐⭐; 35 yo: -⭐⭐⭐; 36+ yo: fixed value of 1⭐

Selections must have EXACTLY 15 cyclists. If more or less cyclists are chosen, the selection will not be valid.
For a single selection up to 45⭐ can be spent, but this number can be lower than 45. If more than 45⭐ are spent, the selection will not be valid.
If there are more than one non-valid selections (hopefully not), so I don't have to discard participations I will remove cyclists from the selection until they are not breaking the rules, starting with the cyclist with higher wage.

WAGES: the wages taken to calculate the stars will be the initial wages of the season, showed during pre-season. After 1am update on from Sunday to Monday, wages will be changed for cyclists that have made points on a 1st div race or a NT race. Therefore, if when calculating the stars you see that the cyclist has scored points (regular calendar or NT), you will have to use the following formula:

Pre-season wage = Current wage - [current points - points made after last 1am update] - [(current NT points - NT points made after last 1am update) x 3]

SCORING SYSTEM: Only the top10 of each tour/stage in 1st division will get points

Tour de France
100 80 60 50 45 40 35 30 25 20
Giro d'Italia/La Vuelta/Road WC
85 70 55 45 40 35 30 25 20 15
Milano-Sanremo/De Ronde Van Vlaanderen/Paris-Roubaix/Liège-Bastogne-Liège/Giro Lombardia/TT WC
80 65 50 40 35 30 25 20 15 10
Gent-Wevelgem/Amstel Gold Race/San Sebastián
70 55 45 35 30 25 20 15 10 5
Strade Bianche/E3 Harelbeke/Dwars door Vlaanderen/Flèche Wallonne/Eschborn-Frankfurt
60 50 40 35 30 25 20 15 10 5
Paris-Nice/Tirreno-Adriatico/Itzulia/Dauphiné/BinckBank Tour
50 40 30 25 20 15 10 7.5 5 2.5
Stage Giro d'Italia/Tour de France/La Vuelta
35 25 20 15 12.5 10 7.5 5 2.5 1
Stage Paris-Nice/Tirreno-Adriatico/Itzulia/Dauphiné/BinckBank Tour
20 16 13 10 8 6 4 3 2 1

Races not included: Tour Down Under, Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, Volta Catalunya, Tour Romandie, Tour Suisse

DEADLINE

The first scoring race will be Strade Bianche, therefore the deadline will be Wednesday 19th January at 23:59, CFF time. IMPORTANT: add the initial pre-season wage of the cyclist next to his name when doing the selection. Selections can be sent via CFFantasy, and they will be published on the following day or whenever I have time to put them together. I can receive them on discord chat as well, but when possible just fill the form, so I can download them together.
If anyone wants to change their selection before the deadline, they only have to re-submit the selection on the Google Form, under the same team name. I will take the last selection submitted.

PRIZE

The winner will get a month of supporter for free, as previous seasons.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2022, 08:23:00 AM by ophiuko »

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2022, 01:50:00 PM »
Yo puedo apuntar unos cuantos.

Soy voluntario para 20 ciclistas ( y si es necesario; más ciclistas ).

2 volunteers already, who is next ? :)

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2022, 03:21:29 PM »
So anyone that is willing to search, write and post a list of 20 CFF cyclists with their wage and corresponding CFFantasy stars, anytime from 00:15 on Friday 14th January 2022 to 23:59 on Sunday 16th January 2022 (preseason)

About being a volunteer for the CFFantasy game ;
I understand it is just about setting the pre-season wages into stars ?
Because the pre-season wages determine the stars.

And I assume the formula is only needed for picks who are not on the big list,
ánd who had an increase of wage due to NT race 1 and/or the TDU.
In other perspective ;
if everyone made their 15 picks before the first season update, the formula is not needed.
In fact, in this case posting a big list is not even needed.

But I do understand the purpose of the formula due to the later deadline, before Strade Bianche.
And therefore I do understand the big list with stars, determined by their pre-season-wages.

The most easy would be to set the deadline 1 minute before the first season update.
But with a big list of cyclists + stars based on pre-season wages, it is also easy to participants,
ánd they can make last-minute changes before the later deadline ( before SB ),
by picking a cyclist of the big list
and/or by picking a cyclist who is not on the big list and only then use the formula.

Anyway, if I'm right that the only job of a volunteer is setting pre-season wages into stars,
I can do 100 cyclists easily ( already on Friday ), no problem to me and glad to help.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2022, 03:52:41 PM »
Yes, if the selection is made before the first update, there is no need of lists or calculations, the wages are just the ones showed in game.

But on previous Predictions games that included TDU, my experience is that many managers are off the game during pre-season and only come back after the first update. Therefore I think the late deadline is essential to have many participants.

The only job required here is to make and send me/post here a list like this one:

Name         Wage     Number of stars
Cyclist1      Wage1      #stars
Cyclist2      Wage2      #stars
Cyclist3      Wage3      #stars
Cyclist4      Wage4      #stars
Cyclist5      Wage5      #stars
Cyclist6      Wage6      #stars
Cyclist7      Wage7      #stars
Cyclist8      Wage8      #stars
Cyclist9      Wage9      #stars
Cyclist10    Wage10    #stars
Cyclist11    Wage11    #stars
Cyclist12    Wage12    #stars
Cyclist13    Wage13    #stars
Cyclist14    Wage14    #stars
Cyclist15    Wage15    #stars
Cyclist16    Wage16    #stars
Cyclist17    Wage17    #stars
Cyclist18    Wage18    #stars
Cyclist19    Wage19    #stars
Cyclist20    Wage20    #stars

With the cyclists that I will distribute. Probably it won't be more than 10 minutes to do the 20. The only problem is that it has do be done during the timeframe that I posted earlier:

anytime from 00:15 on Friday 14th January 2022 to 23:59 on Sunday 16th January 2022 (preseason),

Because this is the only time that the pre-season wage will be shown on the cyclist profile. With the season update on Thursday night, it decreases; and after the first training&transfermarket update, it may increase depending on points made.

We have already 5 volunteers (3 more from the chat). On Thursday evening I will distribute depending on how many we are, and I will consider the ones who have offered to do more in case it is needed. As soon as I receive the lists, I will be updating the game instructions post with the cyclists.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 04:11:05 PM »
In case you did not think of this ;
Not all cyclists have to be on the big list. Only the hills, flat-hills, sprint, hills-sprint, time trial, and TDU-GC cyclists have to be on the big list.
All other types of cyclists will have the same salary before Omloop Het Nieuwsblad as they had before the first season update.
So, my suggestion is to move up the deadline 1 race, to before Omloop Het Nieuwsblad.
Another option is to keep the deadline of before Strade Bianche, and add all major cobblehills specialists to the big list.

NT race 1 = always hills or flat-hills.
the 5 TDU stages = sprint + time trial + hills sprint + hills sprint + flat hills.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 04:53:04 PM »
OK, good point, focus on hillers, sprinters and TTers. Then I think we might cover all those between the ones that have already offered as volunteers. With the deadline at midnight before Strade, points made on TDU Stage 5, TDU GC and Omloop will not be reflected on the cyclist wage before the game deadline.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2022, 11:28:10 AM »
Maybe if some of us send in our choices prior to the NT, that would serve a similar purpose, after all it seems as if the volunteer part would be duplicated by multiple managers regardless.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2022, 11:47:47 AM »
After the comment made by Vos, now I think there are not so many cyclists that will change their wage during the first races of the season. So most probably I'll use the help of the 5 managers that already volunteered to make a quick list of hillers, TTers and sprinters, and I will publish it probably on Friday.
I don't consider using the choices sent before the NT race 1 because:
1) usually most selections are made last minute, and only a couple of managers send them during preseason
2) that will give hints to others, and the intention is to keep the selections secret until the deadline.
Regarding 2), It's true that I can still see the selections as I am making the Google Form, but I don't look at them until I have made mine. If anyone don't believe my word, I'm happy to transfer the Google Form if anyone that is not going to participate volunteers to do it, but at the moment everyone seems to be participating.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2022, 11:57:12 AM »
I'm happy not to participate if needed.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2022, 07:59:14 PM »
Let's not take a person out the game for the moment. If anyone is not happy with me hosting the Google Form, let me know and then I will ask Aurora Australis to be the host.

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2022, 11:56:59 AM »
Lists for volunteers:
@aldioblas 1 to 20 sprint DT
@Toshette 1 to 20 hills DT
@RealMurciaCycling 1 to 20 TT DT
vos 21 to 40 sprint DT
@Marquina vos 21 to 40 hillsDT
Vicam vos 21 to 40 TT DT

Do it only AFTER tonight's update, not before, only after changing to the new season.

Use the following template:

Name         Wage     Number of stars
Cyclist1      Wage1      #stars
Cyclist2      Wage2      #stars
Cyclist3      Wage3      #stars
Cyclist4      Wage4      #stars
Cyclist5      Wage5      #stars
Cyclist6      Wage6      #stars
Cyclist7      Wage7      #stars
Cyclist8      Wage8      #stars
Cyclist9      Wage9      #stars
Cyclist10    Wage10    #stars
Cyclist11    Wage11    #stars
Cyclist12    Wage12    #stars
Cyclist13    Wage13    #stars
Cyclist14    Wage14    #stars
Cyclist15    Wage15    #stars
Cyclist16    Wage16    #stars
Cyclist17    Wage17    #stars
Cyclist18    Wage18    #stars
Cyclist19    Wage19    #stars
Cyclist20    Wage20    #stars

⭐: up to 860 wage
⭐⭐: up to 1500 wage
⭐⭐⭐: up to 4000 wage
⭐⭐⭐⭐: up to 8000 wage
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐: 8000+ wage

33 yo: -⭐; 34 yo: -⭐⭐; 35 yo: -⭐⭐⭐; 36+ yo: fixed value of 1⭐

You could post the list here or to me by message.

Thanks!
« Last Edit: January 13, 2022, 05:24:17 PM by ophiuko »

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - OPEN DEADLINE
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2022, 10:17:23 AM »
21-40 TT dream team

Name   Wage   Number of stars
Alwin Neeskens   2588   ⭐⭐⭐
John Straathof   3084   ⭐⭐⭐
Freddy Good   948   ⭐⭐
Tijn Landzaat   5278   ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Christian Pocock   3854   ⭐⭐⭐
Sebastiao Dourado   815   ⭐
Jason Duffy   3774   ⭐⭐⭐
Markus Benett   2455   ⭐⭐⭐
Victor Martin   801   ⭐
Dennis Våg   1021   ⭐⭐
Nurettin Ballack   1235   ⭐⭐
Julian Frances   1471   ⭐⭐
Georges Delorme   1208   ⭐⭐
Eric Armstrong   1349   ⭐⭐
Patrick Cann   975   ⭐⭐
Guus Oudkerk   1725   ⭐⭐⭐
Alex Trautemberg   957   ⭐⭐
Jonny Alfier   1409   ⭐⭐
Bob Iverson   582   ⭐
Billy Janson   1053   ⭐⭐
« Last Edit: January 14, 2022, 10:21:12 AM by Alaville »

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - OPEN DEADLINE
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2022, 12:01:18 PM »
21-40 sprint DT

Stuart Marbley   3739   ⭐⭐⭐
Kalev Tuum   1869   ⭐⭐⭐
Diogo Rego   875   ⭐⭐
Stefano Albrecht   1127   ⭐⭐
Norbert Pinczés   2264   ⭐⭐⭐
Jøran Holtet   6568   ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Cayetano Vera   1396   ⭐⭐
Nate Middleton   1564   ⭐⭐⭐
Dries Putman   1512   ⭐⭐⭐
Kurt Kastrup   1390   ⭐⭐
Valentijn Havik   813   ⭐
Jean Pierre Verslype   1169   ⭐⭐
Ostap Kukin   904   ⭐⭐
Ricky Elklint   1386   ⭐⭐
Doroteo Medrano   2900   ⭐⭐⭐
Camilo Castilla   1516   ⭐⭐⭐
Ralf Scheffer   1516   ⭐⭐⭐
Gor Morev   3223   ⭐⭐⭐
Wilt Frances   817   ⭐
Birger Rogstad   1250   ⭐⭐

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - OPEN DEADLINE
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2022, 12:14:10 PM »
21-40 hills DT

Luca Rota   10390   ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Paddy Friend   850   ⭐
Adrian Tunik   5664   ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Konstantin Sidorenkov   2841   ⭐⭐⭐
Sonny Bilberg   1802   ⭐⭐⭐
Sandro Semon   2977   ⭐⭐⭐
Hubert van der Poel   905   ⭐⭐
Kobe Thompson   825   ⭐
Bram Makarov   1977   ⭐⭐⭐
Paolo Pierro   1167   ⭐⭐
Giona Zbinden   1032   ⭐⭐
Egoitz Rubiera   3684   ⭐⭐⭐
Yves Aerts   818   ⭐
Vince Pálfy   851   ⭐
Toomas Rivis   1832   ⭐⭐⭐
Aziz Roschin   2579   ⭐⭐⭐
Justino Ornelas   806   ⭐
Bela Quaskov   716   ⭐
Remigio Bejarano   810   ⭐
Jesper Hellerud   815   ⭐

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Re: CFFantasy S22 - OPEN DEADLINE
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2022, 11:47:44 PM »
Everything is ready on the first post. You can find most of the riders which could change wages after Sunday on the list. If the rider that you are trying to select has made points and is not on the list, use the formula.
Thanks all the volunteers, the lists were quite helpful.