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English Cff Forum => NT Teams => Topic started by: Vos on June 05, 2020, 12:44:15 PM
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A new NT season starts ! 8)
Thanks for the votes. :)
Tomorrow I will post lists, preview(s) and selection of the first NT race ; a flathills-race in Switzerland.
Already today I opened this topic, in case someone wants to post something about this NT season 10 or about Australian cyclists.
Fox advice = Send your scout to Australia ! :-* 8)
So I can make a list of the young Australian talents too. Then it will be fun for you to see your scouted Australian proudly on that list.
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I just want to see Jasper in the top of few lists...hahaha
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Cool, my cyclists are that talented they broke your calculator (well not really but it sounds good). Next season I'll start a fresh lot of 19 year olds to attempt a repeat.
It looks like we're got a couple of decent 23 year old climbers coming, go Sacido's cyclists.
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RACE 1 : FLAT-HILLS IN SWITZERLAND
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/luzern.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/jYRxAqJ.jpg?1)
38ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)
Olten, north of Switzerland,
For the very first time this well known stage of the Tour de Suisse is a NT race. ( well known because it was always on the CFF2 calendar )
Two times before there was a flat-hill NT race on the CFF3 calendar, both were the same race in Spain of 145km.
But with a different GV because depite it was also a FFFFH race, it had an uphill finish without downhill in the final section.
Back then Australia scored points ( 10º+11º in season 4, and 4º+16º in season 5 ), hopefully also points in this different flat-hills NT race.
Because such a flat-hills race is always a bit of a gamble, there is no space for (young) xp-cyclists.
Australia is on full strenght and the best cyclists are selected according to my estimated GV for this race.
With one exception ; the nr10 Duffy is selected instead of the nr9 Curry, his teammate and 5 times international.
Both are just as good as helpers, so this is a good opportunity for Duffy to make his debut what looks better on his profile.
It is not yet entirely certain who will be the teamcaptain, and just one Aussie has an active weather icon* in this extreme heat of 38ºC.
Australia NT selection :
Cameron Jones ( 28 ) Vital
Allan Winger ( 26 ) Speedbird
Oliver Stamer ( 26 ) FaltososDeChigre
Steve Owens ( 28 ) Oska
Vinnie Coleman ( 27 ) los_leones_del_sur
Austin Burton ( 28 ) TeamRHB
Tyler Walker ( 28 ) NervionBike
Bill Furey* ( 28 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team ( debut )
Denis Duffy ( 28 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team ( debut )
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wow, Duffy and Furey selected and Curry not!! This season Curry is going to be a bit jealous in the team... ;D
btw: I'm a bit surprised to not seeing Aaron Palmer in the top 15 Climb-hills...a golden 9* climb-hiller
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Aaron Palmer is just outside the top 15 on number 16 with a GV of 83,87
There is a big difference in this climbhills GV compared to the icon rating of CFF.
This GV is for a pure climbhills race, flat is just 6%. And this is the reason Aaron Palmer is outside the top 15.
For example, GV's for SanSebastian and Lombardia are completely different as this climbhills GV in my Australian NT evaluator.
For the first time ever there is climbhills race on the NT calendar.
It has a flat section in it, so that is beneficial for Aaron Palmer.
My estimated GV for that NT race 6 will be very different as the standard climbhills GV.
As you can see at my NT race 1 selection (it is in order of GV), the GV is also adapted to that race and it is not the standard flat-hills GV.
A big disadvantage for Palmer in NT race 6 ; the final section is hills ( and s5 always very important in the GV percentages ).
Palmer is more suited for a climbhills race with at least 1 flat section and a mountain section as finish.
It is questionable whether he will be selected for the climbhills NT race. But I did not look into that race yet to see how many others are better.
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Cool, my cyclists are that talented they broke your calculator (well not really but it sounds good). Next season I'll start a fresh lot of 19 year olds to attempt a repeat.
It looks like we're got a couple of decent 23 year old climbers coming, go Sacido's cyclists.
Over the 100, funny. :)
This is the same Australian NT evaluator I used in CFF2 where I was Australian NT manager many times.
But I cannot remember that I have seen it over the 100 before, so that probably never happened.
The climbers list is a bit misleading, because Australia has no good climbers at the moment.
Hopefully that will be better in the near future. Were Sacido's climbers in the u23 DT of previous season ?
There is a lot of real good competition in climbers, the most trained skill in this game.
This week I will look into the future chances of the young Australians.
This season Australia has 6 cyclists in the u23 Dream Team, probably more as usual, so that looks promising. :)
time trial
1º Charles Iverson Frenkie
2º Steve Odom Frenkie
4º Kirk Workman Aurora_Australis
hills
2º Tim Morton Inglourious_Bastards
4º Dudley Judd Telleriarte
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4º Martin Hunter Quickstepbronx
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(https://i.imgur.com/bi7XdWp.jpg?1) AUSTRALIA NT : SEASON 10 PREVIEW
race 1 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/suiza.jpg) Luzern ; flat-hills
This race is new ( see preview race 1 ), so it is difficult to estimate what to expect.
Hopefully as many points as in those 2 other, different flat-hill races.
prediction = 240 points
race 2 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Sestriere ; mountains
Australia is not good in the mountains. For example two seasons ago a 16th place in a pure mountain race.
But back in season 6 there was a very surprising good 8th place in this exact same race.
However, this is a rare exception, and the only time in a mountain race that an Australian finished in the top10.
prediction = 80 points
race 3 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Milano ; sprint
A sprint race is easy to compare with past results ;
s5= zero points, s6= 4º, s7= 11º, s8= zero points, and in previous season 9 there were 2 sprint races ; 11º and zero points.
A sprint race is always gambling and the level goes up every season because of new young topsprinters.
The best Australian sprinter is Nelson, he is the current nr 99 in the golden sprint list.
45 flat sprinters are better than Nelson, and probably a few other sprinters too who are listed as hills sprinter.
Let's hope the tactics will be good, so Nelson does great and can repeat the first result ( not the second result ) of season 9.
prediction = 110 points ( or zero ? )
race 4 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Torino ; time trial
Thanks to Aurora Australis every season many points in the TT ;
s5= 815, s6= 725, s7= 955 + 1.045, s8= 835 and s9= 920.
prediction = 900
race 5 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) Meudon (very near to Paris) ; flat-cobblehills
Zero points in all different cobblehills races in the past 5 seasons. Logical, because Australia has no top cobblehills riders.
Only in the very first NT season 2 Australia scored many points in a pure cobblehills race ( 6º and 13º ),
after that only in season 4 there was a 17º place in a Strade Bianche NT race, and since then always zero points.
But I'm hopefull ( and perhaps not realistic ), because it is the first time this NT race with 3 flat sections is on the NT calendar.
With risky tactics it is maybe possible to score a few points.
prediction = 10 points
race 6 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) Barcelona ; climbhills
For the very first time a climbhills race, so no past results.
The best Australian hillsclimber is on nr 65 in the golden climb list, and there are 39 better foreign hillsclimbers.
But this does not have to mean that Australia will be bad in this specific climbhills race.
A top result and/or a few point-scoring Aussies seems to me out of the question, but it is difficult to estimate how Australia will do.
So it will be a wild guess ;
prediction = 140 points
race 7 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/belgica.jpg) Breskens ; cobblestones
The start- and finishplace is in Breskens, a town in the Netherlands, but this race is almost entirely in Belgium.
Belgium is the current world champion. The Netherlands finished as 3rd in previous season 9 but was the world champion in season 8.
So this could be a very appropriate apotheosis in the battle of the world championship.
Australia will go for the race victory with Angus Friend who was the teamcaptain on the cobblestones in s6=4º, s7=1º, and s8=1º.
prediction = 300 points
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Add this all up, and the very optimistic total season prediction = 1.780 points :o :))
Belgium is the current world champion with 1.620 points.
The Netherlands was world champion in season 8 with 1.685 points.
Of course, my prediction is way too optimistic, and there is many fierce competition this season.
For example France, Portugal and Ukraine will probably benefit of the climbhills race.
And countries like Spain, Great Britain and Norway are most likely rivals too.
And maybe Italy and Denmark can compete for podiumplaces, or another country that I have not mentioned.
Season goal of Australia = battle for a podiumplace. 8)
NT race 1 will be already very important for Australia, almost no points is also possible instead of my point rich prediction.
edit ; ( in bold my favorites, in blue the future nr 3, with the remark that I could be completely wrong )
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Nice job!
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Bad start of the NT season. In NT race 1 unexpectedly it went wrong in s3 althoug the peleton was still big with 72.
But in s3 the teamcaptain, 3 helpers and 3 free rolers suddenly could not follow. And almost all used energy in s3.
Free role Winger saved the honor of Australia by scoring 10 points. ( that is about 4% of my optimistic prediction :-[ :)) )
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Aaron Palmer is just outside the top 15 on number 16 with a GV of 83,87
There is a big difference in this climbhills GV compared to the icon rating of CFF.
This GV is for a pure climbhills race, flat is just 6%. And this is the reason Aaron Palmer is outside the top 15.
For example, GV's for SanSebastian and Lombardia are completely different as this climbhills GV in my Australian NT evaluator.
For the first time ever there is climbhills race on the NT calendar.
It has a flat section in it, so that is beneficial for Aaron Palmer.
My estimated GV for that NT race 6 will be very different as the standard climbhills GV.
As you can see at my NT race 1 selection (it is in order of GV), the GV is also adapted to that race and it is not the standard flat-hills GV.
A big disadvantage for Palmer in NT race 6 ; the final section is hills ( and s5 always very important in the GV percentages ).
Palmer is more suited for a climbhills race with at least 1 flat section and a mountain section as finish.
It is questionable whether he will be selected for the climbhills NT race. But I did not look into that race yet to see how many others are better.
Yah, I know that.. Aaron is more suitable for races like Stage 5 of Paris Nice or Stage 1 Tirreno this season...
For NT Race 6, Joe Ryan could be 1 of our best options...I think others like Henderson, Burgess, Carey, etc...has a profile with more climbing and less hills...I dont remember exactly.
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I have to look into that NT race 6, hopefully Australia has some suited climbhills riders for that specific race.
Because points are needed after a dissapointing NT race 1, otherwise the season goal of battling for a podium place will not be achieved.
But first the mountain race where the expectations are very low.
After that the sprint race in Milano ; prepare your 20yo Jasper Blair good, for sure he will be selected. 8)
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Australia u24
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RACE 2 : SNOWY ALPS
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/sestriere2.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/p4896Lk.jpg?1)
1ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)
Saint Gervais, French Alps,
The expectations are low in this cold and brutal monster stage of 254km to Sestriere ( Italy ).
Australia has zero golden climbers who are listed as pure climber in the golden climbers list of 336(!) cyclists.
Garza will be the teamcaptain who has a golden icon on flat-climb, but I assume he has just silver on pure climb.
Hopefully he can score a few points anyway.
6 climbers are selected, including the 21yo Furey who makes his debut.
This NT race is a good opportunity to select xp cyclists as well. All 3 are in the u23 Dream Team ;
Hunter (climbills) and Iverson (flat-TT) will make their debut also, and Morton (hills) was selected just 1x before.
And no worries for managers who have also very promising young Australian talents, they are all on my radar and maybe selected next time.
For example the 20yo sprint-toptalent Blair (3x international) will be selected next week.
Australia NT selection :
Anthony Garza ( 28 ) SaulSalinasTeam
Daniel Lucas ( 28 ) SAGASAI
Scott Springsteen ( 28 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Colin Mount ( 23 ) Sacido
Ryan Henderson ( 23 ) FrançaiseDesJeux
Jason Furey ( 21 ) PDM_cycling_team ( debut )
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Martin Hunter ( 22 ) Quickstepbronx ( debut )
Tim Morton ( 22 ) Inglourious_Bastards
Charles Iverson ( 22 ) Frenkie ( debut )
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RACE 2 : SNOWY ALPS
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/sestriere2.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/p4896Lk.jpg?1)
1ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)
Saint Gervais, French Alps,
The expectations are low in this cold and brutal monster stage of 254km to Sestriere ( Italy ).
Australia has zero golden climbers who are listed as pure climber in the golden climbers list of 336(!) cyclists.
Garza will be the teamcaptain who has a golden icon on flat-climb, but I assume he has just silver on pure climb.
Hopefully he can score a few points anyway.
6 climbers are selected, including the 21yo Furey who makes his debut.
This NT race is a good opportunity to select xp cyclists as well. All 3 are in the u23 Dream Team ;
Hunter (climbills) and Iverson (flat-TT) will make their debut also, and Morton (hills) was selected just 1x before.
And no worries for managers who have also very promising young Australian talents, they are all on my radar and maybe selected next time.
For example the 20yo sprint-toptalent Blair (3x international) will be selected next week.
Australia NT selection :
Anthony Garza ( 28 ) SaulSalinasTeam
Daniel Lucas ( 28 ) SAGASAI
Scott Springsteen ( 28 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Colin Mount ( 23 ) Sacido
Ryan Henderson ( 23 ) FrançaiseDesJeux
Jason Furey ( 21 ) PDM_cycling_team ( debut )
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Martin Hunter ( 22 ) Quickstepbronx ( debut )
Tim Morton ( 22 ) Inglourious_Bastards
Charles Iverson ( 22 ) Frenkie ( debut )
The NT selection is complete, 3 xp cyclists are added.
In a few days more Australian youth lists, hopefully including the u20 list what can be interesting and fun. At the moment too few 19yo's.
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In a few days more Australian youth lists, hopefully including the u20 list what can be interesting and fun. At the moment too few 19yo's.
Here are mine:
Dudley Iverson (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=85441) Edad : 19 Sueldo : 588
Resistencia : 55 Sprint : 2 Montaña : 70
LLano : 41 Pavés : 9 Tecnica : 28
Descenso : 62 Colinas : 41 Agresividad : 6
Crono : 10 TraEqui : 63
Alistair Coleman (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/visione.php?ciclistaid=86272) (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg) Edad : 19 Sueldo : 852
Resistencia : 64 Sprint : 14 Montaña : 52
LLano : 30 Pavés : 23 Tecnica : 40
Descenso : 54 Colinas : 43 Agresividad : 59
Crono : 28 TraEqui : 40
Im really impatient to see those lists :)
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Im really impatient to see those lists :)
Well, the lists are for fun and an indication to compare. But there is nothing to compare yet, because there are just 18x 19yo's.
So this u20 list is just for fun. :)
And as a reward for scouting in Australia, and as an encouragement to others to also scout in Australia.
(https://i.imgur.com/2Ai1WGj.jpg)
Australia u20
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The miracle tactics in the mountains of NT race 2 worked ! Garza finished as 16º ! 8) :)
Maybe people wonder now :"Why is Vos so happy with just a 16th place ?"
Because this is a more than excellent result and the tactics went perfect, including the help Garza had in the first 3 sections.
And I'm used to race in the mountains with much and much better climbers of my own team, who are even by far not the best in the game.
So I had to adjust the "fox mountain tactics" drastically to the very low level in quality of Garza and his helpers.
And of course heavily dependent on the effect of helpers and the effect of the teamcaptain role.
60 points scored in this race, what makes a total score of 70 points in 2 NT races.
Now we passed Italy, who could not score points with their much better climbers ( among them Coppi and my own Miorlin ),
17 more countries to overtake, because Australia is now 18th in the ranking by nations.
We stay in Italy, because next week a NT sprint race with finish in a cold Milan.
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Great great race!! :o
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I just want to see Jasper in the top of few lists...hahaha
Here you go, already in the top of the u23 list. 8)
( and already selected for the upcoming NT sprint race )
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Australia u23
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WOW!! Great to see Jasper there!! But also it is a shame to know that we dont have sprinters at all when the best U23 is a 20yo one...
BTW, I just bought Devin Byers, a good prospect of hiller-climbhiller that my training can be good for him...he doesn't have a very high level of hills, but as after flat I will be training hills...maybe I can make a good cyclist for our country :)
Devin Byers Age : 20 Wage : 828
Stamina : 62 Sprint : 6 Climbing : 59
Flat : 40 Cobblestone : 8 Technique : 51
Downhill : 55 Hills : 83 Aggressiveness : 64
Time Trial : 13 Teamwork : 15 Experience : 5
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Indeed, in some specialities Australia has no generation at all, or even more generations without a decent good cyclist.
About Devin Beyers, he is just outside the top15 of the list above, coincidental 8x 20yo's just outside the u23 climbhills list ;
16 Tim Caan 20 Mir 61,68
17 Dean Chambers 20 Arosa 61,54
18 Devin Byers 20 Manicomicos_Cycling_Team 61,09
19 Noel Moore 20 GOAT 60,80
20 Callum Walkins 20 Ares 60,70
21 Kendall Palmer 20 Teamsomio 60,66
22 Benjamin Glass 20 team_piroshki 60,16
23 Jasper Brown 20 Gepetto_Broders 59,78
This week I will also post the u21 and the u22 lists, then it will be more clear and then all different youth lists are posted.
Next week I will post another u20 list, hopefully then much more 19yo Australians than we have now.
Because also in the new generation we are missing out many specialities at the moment.
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BTW, I just want to say that I have plenty of millions, so, any good aussie that my training of flat and then tech suites his skills...feel free to offer him to me and you will be rich! ;D ;D
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Australia u22
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can you do only the 19 year olds, so I know where to pull/search?
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can you do only the 19 year olds, so I know where to pull/search?
2 days ago I posted the u20 list.
https://cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php?topic=632.msg21631#msg21631
Tomorrow I will post the u21 list, the only youth list I did not posted yet.
Probably that list will make also clear where Australia needs good 19yo's.
If not, I will post the u20 list again. At the moment 24x 19yo's and just a few good ones. Tomorrow more about this.
For now, everything is needed, it does not matter much what you scout/recruit for, every good 19yo is an asset to Australia.
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Next season & the season after, I'm going to make an attempt for some new 19 year old TTers, so we'll probably get covered there. It's just in most other areas that we're lacking.
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Jasper "The Bullet" (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sprintbronce.jpg) Blair, 20 years old.
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(https://i.imgur.com/2Ai1WGj.jpg)
Australia u21
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The current best 19yo's are also in this u21 list.
This week I make a u20 list again, so with just the 19yo's. Today one less 19yo compared to yesterday, at the moment just 23x 19yo's.
About the question :"what is the best to recruit/scout ?"
According to me this can be the best answered by looking at the big picture, and not just looking at one generation.
In CFF3 the cyclists are 7 seasons at their peak, and 8 seasons if you count the 31yo's as well. The real top cyclists are still good then.
The best is to look at all youth generations ( = 5 seasons ) to see what Australia needs,
ánd to look at the most common NT races on the calendar.
The 6 types of NT races that are almost every season on the calendar :
Flat-TT, flat-sprint, hills, cobblehills, flat-cobble and climb (sometimes with 1 or 2 flat sections).
By memory, so correct me if I'm wrong ; after these 6 most important types, there was 3x flat-hills and 2x hills-TT in all 9 NT seasons.
But sometimes one of the 6 most important types had 2 (the same) NT races on the season calendar.
So let's look how Australia will do in the future in those 6 most important types.
flat-TT =
flat-sprint =
hills =
cobblehills =
flat-cobble =
climb ( sometimes with 1 or 2 flat sections ) =
Blanc spaces, because it is a nice puzzle for all Australian managers to try to solve.
What helps to puzzle ; I posted lists of every generation, and most Australian managers can see the u23 DT and all golden CFF lists.
Of course, it is too difficult to estimate how good a very young Australian really will be ;
the talent rating is of influence, and even more important can be how good a manager trains the young Australian talent.
For those who don't like to puzzle ; it seems to me that recruiting/scouting in 19yo cobblehills talents benefits the future of Australia.
But there are more good options (such as flat-cobble and even climb), and every toptalent (in no matter what) is welcome Down Under. :)
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Today one less 19yo compared to yesterday
That's my fault, Im sorry but I need the place in my team so I had to fire him :-\
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No sorry needed, Floppy, I saw that 19yo Australian and he was not good enough for this game.
Although he was really close, if only some stats were a little bit different.
I even suspect you tried to sell him for 1,- and if he is not sold, it is logical you fire him.
And place in your team for a much better cyclist is of course very good. :)
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Gordon Ronnald (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=87328) Edad : 19 Sueldo : 858
Resistencia : 30 Sprint : 5 Montaña : 63
LLano : 66 Pavés : 20 Tecnica : 65
Descenso : 58 Colinas : 26 Agresividad : 11
Crono : 59 TraEqui : 50
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not bad :)
Fenton Beckham Age : 19 Wage : 851
Stamina : 66 Sprint : 41 Climbing : 31
Flat : 31 Cobblestone : 2 Technique : 63
Downhill : 9 Hills : 61 Aggressiveness : 71
Time Trial : 29 Teamwork : 41 Experience : 0
Price : Days left : Stages raced : 0
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This weekend I will post the u20 list again. At the moment 25 x 19yo's.
A few potential good ones, maybe very good, but it seems to me that in general this new 19yo generation is not lucky in recruiting/scouting.
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RACE 3 : SPRINT IN MILAN
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/milano.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/FFltVEW.jpg?1)
2ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
Milan, Italy,
My text about this sprint race in the too optimistic season preview says enough :
race 3 (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/italia.jpg) Milano ; sprint
A sprint race is easy to compare with past results ;
s5= zero points, s6= 4º, s7= 11º, s8= zero points, and in previous season 9 there were 2 sprint races ; 11º and zero points.
A sprint race is always gambling and the level goes up every season because of new young topsprinters.
The best Australian sprinter is Nelson, he is the current nr 99 in the golden sprint list.
45 flat sprinters are better than Nelson, and probably a few other sprinters too who are listed as hills sprinter.
Let's hope the tactics will be good, so Nelson does great and can repeat the first result ( not the second result ) of season 9.
prediction = 110 points ( or zero ? )
Nelson gets more than sufficient support in this selection that consists almost exclusively of sprinters.
Two xp-cyclists are selected, the very young talents Blair (sprint) and Shields (flat-hills).
Australia NT selection :
Derek Nelson ( 28 ) Yvo_Meppelink_ProCycling
Tony Carter ( 28 ) HorsCategorieProTeam
David Dixon ( 28 ) LosTxinosKudeiros
Oliver Stamer ( 26 ) FaltososDeChigre
Brent Hunter* ( 24 ) FrançaiseDesJeux
Stu Woods ( 28 ) TeamRHB
Ryan Pierre ( 23 ) Shiro_Lions
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Jasper Blair ( 20 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Gerard Shields* ( 21 ) Quickstepbronx
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Australia u20 ( 29 cyclists in total )
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??? Suddenly teamcaptain Nelson could not follow the peleton of 94 ( ! ) cyclists in section 2.
And all 6 Australian helpers had no problems and were in the huge peleton of s2, even the ones who took risk in the helpers tactic.
Very weird, I guess Nelson was sick in this NT sprint race, otherwise I cannot explain this result : 111º Nelson :-[ :o
We can rule out that he became sick due to a virus in his team, because his Dutch teammate won.
After this strange and very dissapointing sprint race, Australia is now last in the ranking by nations. :(
Next week a time trial, it is up to Aurora Australis to save us from a major disaster failure this season.
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Funny information and not exaggerated, almost a fact ;
when the 20yo Blair would have had the teamcaptain role, most likely he would have finished better than Nelson in a teamcaptain role.
And this is one of the many indications that this was a very weird sprint race of Nelson.
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Through every dark night, there's a bright day after that (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eQ71Za1sKM) :)
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Indeed, Floppy :)
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"The bullet" Blair is asking for the teamcaptain role ASAP! He is the future of the NT, he is the one that is going to rule the sprint races in the game!! haha
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A future certainty, and also his name "The Bullet" Blair is more suited for the teamcaptain role than "The Snail" Nelson. :))
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RACE 4 : TORINO TIME TRIAL
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/chieri.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/vPJwR4Q.jpg?1)
5ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)
Chieri, north west Italy,
6 out of the 7 selected AA-time-trialists scored 920 points in the time trial of previous season.
Three-time world champion Levin won that race, and one-time world champion Trump finished as 2nd.
Hopefully again such a successful time trial.
The best 9 TT-specialists are selected, because on a lucky day also the 3 least ones can score a few points.
Unfortunately this means there is no room for the young Australian talents. They might get their chance on extra xp in the next NT race.
Australia NT selection :
Richard Levin ( 28 ) Aurora_Australis
Isaac Trump ( 28 ) Aurora_Australis
Paul Clickett ( 27 ) Aurora_Australis
Christian Pinkney ( 27 ) Aurora_Australis
Owen Acree ( 28 ) Aurora_Australis
Ben Mitchum ( 28 ) Aurora_Australis
Neil Bell ( 27 ) Aurora_Australis
David Wilson ( 26 ) Frenkie
Jim Slipper ( 28 ) TeamRHB
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Australia u20 ( 40 cyclists in total )
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Richard Levin on his way to his 4th NT race victory
Amazing results of the Australian TT specialists ! They scored 1.095 points ! 8)
And that is a new record of most points in one race. The old record was also of Australia ; 1.045 points in the 2nd time trial of season 7.
Australia moved up from the last position to the first position in the ranking by countries. :)
Of course, all credits go to Aurora_Australis ! :-* 8)
NT race 4 results =
1 Richard Levin 28 0: 00" 300 Aurora_Australis
2 Isaac Trump 28 0: 03" 250 Aurora_Australis
3 Paul Clickett 27 0: 04" 225 Aurora_Australis
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8 Christian Pinkney 27 0: 09" 140 Aurora_Australis
10 Ben Mitchum 28 0: 11" 120 Aurora_Australis
16 Owen Acree 28 0: 16" 60 Aurora_Australis
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Bell (2sec short), Slipper (3sec short) and Wilson (3sec short) scored almost points.
Next week a flat cobble hills race near Paris. And in cobble hills Australia has the opposite tradition than in time trial.
The past 5 seasons Australia scored zero points in cobble hills races.
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Amazing...our chances for getting a medal this season are in the last 2 races, the new mountain hills race that is a completely mistery for us...and in the last one with our Friend!
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Here's the bright day, congratz! :)
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Thanks Floppy. :)
And to Franky ; hopefully a podiumplace is possible.
Australia is looking for revenge after that software incident in previous season, what probably had as result that Australia missed a medal.
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Amazing results of the Australian TT specialists ! They scored 1.095 points ! 8)
And that is a new record of most points in one race. The old record was also of Australia ; 1.045 points in the 2nd time trial of season 7.
Australia moved up from the last position to the first position in the ranking by countries. :)
Of course, all credits go to Aurora_Australis ! :-* 8)
Congratulations ! A truly Diamond generation of TT-ers you have there!
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Owen Cann Edad : 19 Sueldo : 859
Resistencia : 22 Sprint : 60 Montaña : 8
LLano : 52 Pavés : 22 Tecnica : 67
Descenso : 48 Colinas : 64 Agresividad : 73
Crono : 3 TraEqui : 37 Experiencia : 0
Precio : 1 Dias Quedan : 2 Carreras Disputadas : 0
Tiene ya dos pujas, espero que no se pierda este muchacho, a mi no me cuadra el entreno sino...
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RACE 5 : STORM IN NORTHERN FRANCE
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/chatou.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/A5vrPF2.jpg?1)
27ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)
Chatou, very near to Paris,
Most likely Australia will score zero points, nevertheless the most strong selection possible and just one young xp cyclist is selected.
The first time this cobble hills race with 3 flat sections is on the NT calendar, and the storm can make this race difficult and unpredictable.
Maybe Australia can score a few points by profiting of the storm / unlucky tactics of other countries.
In an attempt to profit of this, Australia needs many "suited" cyclists. No quality Down Under, so maybe quantity will do the job, I have to try. :)
Australia NT selection :
Alex Byers ( 27 ) Fountain
Kirk Trump ( 28 ) $Tourmalet
Peter Beckham ( 27 ) Team_Klykke
Keith Sheehan ( 27 ) Sabmazz
Elliot Neville* ( 28 ) CessiApedali
Nate Douglas ( 28 ) SentinelChickens
Grant Curry ( 28 ) BLOEMENAANDEMITTE
Cameron Jones ( 28 ) Vital
Jasper Blair ( 20 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
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I had to gamble in this race to try to score a few points, and with the storm there are 2 options to gamble ;
attack and use energy in the flat sections or save many energy in the flat sections and gamble on a strong 55 finish.
I tried the last option with teamcaptain Byers, and with an excellent result = 10th ! :)
I must say that Byers was lucky to have a helper in s1, s2, s3 ánd the important s4.
Because I tried a few different free role tactics, so there were not many helpers.
Luckily Beckham was a (too fast) helper and he was together with Byers in s4.
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Race report :
In s1 it looked like my gamble would be a disaster ; already Byers was on 0:21 of the front group of 38.
And only 2 Australians ( 1 helper and 1 free role ) were in that front group.
In s2 even one group further behind and already on 0:40"
Still surrounded by most Australians, including 2 helpers and dissapointing free roles.
Only helper Beckham stayed in the 2nd group as important forward pawn tactic.
And still the 2 same Aussies in the leading group of now 29.
In s3 still in the 3rd group but the gap a few seconds bigger ; 0:42"
And Byers lost 1 helper, so just 1 helper left in s3, the others were free roles.
In the front "helper" Curry could not follow. Only free role Douglas was in the break away group of 20, including 7 Belgians. :o
In s4 it was full power for Byers and he came closer.
Now it was a fragmented race with many little groups. Byers was in the group of number 26 to 39 on 0:33"
And important, together with a helper.
Free role rider Douglas dropped to the group of 21 to 25, just 4 seconds ahead of Byers and helper Beckham.
For Douglas this means he has no chance anymore to score points.
Also for free roles Trump and Neville (1 group behind Byers) it is already in s4 clear they will not score points despite their energy for s5.
In s5 a magnificant climb of the final cobblehill resulted in an excellent 10th place for Byers. 8)
He was the best silver cyclist in this race, in fact, 18 out of the top 20 had golden icons, only the Italian nr17 had also just silver.
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In the past 5 seasons Australia did not score points in a cobblehills race, so these are 120 unexpected bonus points.
Belgium did amazing in this race ; Pierre won and 7 ( ! ) Belgians scored a total of 790 points in this race.
This makes Belgium the new leader in the season ranking, and Australia dropped just one place.
Next week we go to a rainy, cold and windy Barcelona for the very first climbhills NT race of CFF3.
The best Australian hillsclimber is ranked as number 71 in the golden climbers list. 42 foreign hillsclimbers are higher ranked.
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That 10th position with Byers is awesome!! We are closer to the goal!
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AA Team Training Update: Based on my calculations, Kirk Workman should be a top 20 TTer (at Mitchum or slightly above level), with potential top 5 capabilities in varied weather conditions.
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AA Team Training Update: Based on my calculations, Kirk Workman should be a top 20 TTer (at Mitchum or slightly above level), with potential top 5 capabilities in varied weather conditions.
Don't spend all your time on training! In Switzerland we saw the first flat TT in ages without one of your cyclists on the podium I think ;)
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AA Team Training Update: Based on my calculations, Kirk Workman should be a top 20 TTer (at Mitchum or slightly above level), with potential top 5 capabilities in varied weather conditions.
Australian NT manager update ; Kirk Workman is the very first xp cyclist for next NT races.
He was already very close to make his debut, but so far I selected just a few xp cyclists this season.
I gave the nr1 of the u23 TT dream team already an xp place this season, and about time the nr2 Workman will make his debut also.
Unfortunately, in the next climbhills NT race it is really close behind the already selected top 4 ;
about 13 Aussies have a chance to get one of the 5 remaining spots, so no room for xp cyclists in NT race 6.
Also because Australia is battling for a podium place, what will be difficult.
Belgium is too good ( a good current lead ánd VanKerckhove for NT race 6 ), probably Ukraine is also too good,
and enough rivals for the 3rd place, for example France who should do great in NT race 6.
But in cobbleflat NT race 7 I will select at least 1 or a few xp cyclists, so Workman will make his debut for sure.
Good luck in training him well, AA, and I really like his stats ánd his 3 weather icons. 8)
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Do you have any idea of who can be the leader on Sunday? ::)
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Do you have any idea of who can be the leader on Sunday? ::)
= Niles Thomas ( ZBT ).
Maybe this evening, more likely tomorrow morning, I make the preview of NT race 6 already.
Also then I will select a few more, but a big chance I select the final 2 or 3 cyclists on Saturday, a few days later it can look different.
Because many Aussies are really, really close in the estimated GV for this specific climbhills race.
( I have several GV percentages, just in case my estimated GV is not accurate, and many are really close in every different GV )
And for sure the GV is not the only factor in who I select as good helpers.
For example a good climb skill (in combo with a good GV) for the first 2 sections, and for example active weather icons are of influence too.
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Do you have any idea of who can be the leader on Sunday? ::)
= Niles Thomas ( ZBT ).
Maybe this evening, more likely tomorrow morning, I make the preview of NT race 6 already.
Also then I will select a few more, but a big chance I select the final 2 or 3 cyclists on Saturday, a few days later it can look different.
Because many Aussies are really, really close in the estimated GV for this specific climbhills race.
( I have several GV percentages, just in case my estimated GV is not accurate, and many are really close in every different GV )
And for sure the GV is not the leading factor in who I select as good helpers.
For example a good climb skill (in combo with a good GV) for the first 2 sections, and for example active weather icons are of influence too.
Oh... such a shame for Joe...he was waiting for this NT race for long time ago... :(
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I can understand that, and there is a reason Joe Ryan is one of the already 4 selected cyclists.
He and teamcaptain Niles Thomas have the best finish of these 4, but Thomas his GV is 1,23 higher and he has an active weather icon.
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I can understand that, and there is a reason Joe Ryan is one of the already 4 selected cyclists.
He and teamcaptain Niles Thomas have the best finish of these 4, but Thomas his GV is 1,23 higher and he has an active weather icon.
I see...Well, Joe will help as much as he can to achieve our goal, the 7th (and a half) medal in 9 seasons! (as in Season 1 we didnt have NT races)
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RACE 6 : BARCELONA
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/barna.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/VQFa6Rz.jpg?1)
8ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)
Barcelona,
The very first climbhills NT race in CFF3.
In theory there are many better foreign climbhills specialists, but in this specific climbhills race it is hard to estimate how Australia will perform.
I do expect some points, and those are very welcome in the battle for a podiumplace in the season ranking.
Belgium is 1st and seems to me out of reach, ánd the top favorite to be the world champion again.
Australia is 2nd, and most likely Ukraine, Spain and France are fierce rivals for a podiumplace. What will be more clear after this race.
Australia NT selection :
Niles Thomas* ( 28 ) ZBT ( debut )
Phil Burgess ( 28 ) Cycling ( debut )
Nate Henderson* ( 28 ) TeamSerfin
Joe Ryan ( 28 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Mike Edgar ( 28 ) $Tourmalet ( debut )
Fraser Slipper* ( 27 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team ( debut )
Kevin Bush ( 25 ) CC_Porco_Jones
Steven Marbley ( 25 ) OphiukoCT ( debut )
Royce Black ( 23 ) Sacido ( debut )
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Fraser is 27!! :D ;)
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Fraser is 27!! :D ;)
adjusted, he is the benjamin of the current selected cyclists. :)
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And whats the meaning of the *?? that only 3 of them have it
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* = an active weather icon ( it can be any active weather icon, it does not have to mean a cold icon )
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The final 3 cyclists are selected.
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Steven Marbley is really happy to help his national team at least once in his career. He is 25, not 28 :)
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Yes, thanks for being perceptive, Ophioko, adjusted to 25. :)
It was a writing error because I knew Steven Marbley is 25yo, if he was 28yo he had less chance to be selected, he has many Australian rivals.
Two not selected cyclists have even a better estimated GV, but I assume (and hope) Marbley is a better helper.
Thé future Australian teamcaptain in climbhills races ( with mountain-finish ánd hills-finish ), the just 22yo Martin Hunter ( Quickstepbronx ),
is not even selected and despite his very young age he is already very close in GV to this selection.
Luckily I gave him already an xp selection earlier this season, what was his debut.
No place for semi-xp cyclists in this important NT race.
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Very good results in the very first climbhills NT race ;
6º Niles Thomas ( teamcaptain ), 14º Joe Ryan ( the only free role of Australia ) and 18º Nate Henderson ( helper ).
This gives a total of 270 points. 8)
Only the Netherlands ( 315 points ) and Belgium ( 300 points due to the victory of VanKerckhove ) did better in NT race 6.
Also Estonia scored a good amount of points ( 250 ) and is the new nr3, just 75 points ahead on the new nr4 the Netherlands.
France ( 150 ), Spain ( 70 ) and Ukraine ( 40 ) did much worse as I expected, what is good for Australia. :)
TOP 10 SEASON RANKING, with 1 more NT race to go :
1º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/belgica.jpg) 1715
2º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg) 1555
3º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/estonia.jpg) 1150
4º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) 1075
5º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/ukrania.jpg) 1060
6º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/spain.jpg) 1050
7º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/francia.jpg) 980
8º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/hungria.jpg) 815
9º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/suiza.jpg) 785
split 10º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/inglaterra.jpg) 680
split 10º (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) 680
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Great great race!! I think we have a few chances of winning this season, Angus Friend has the key, as we have a gap of 160 points only...
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Well, at the moment it is very uncertain with a gap of 160 points, despite Australia has Angus Friend.
The best 3 flat-cobble-specialists in the golden ranking looks promising :
Australia = nr 2, nr 24, nr 31
Belgium = nr 16, nr 25, nr 28
In theory this is a difference of 190 points ( nr 2 versus nr 16 ), what is just 30 points more as the 160 points target, even in theory exciting.
However, looking at the past results in the NT flat cobble races it does not look good / or it will be very exciting,
because in the past NT seasons Australia only one time won with more than 160 points in the flatcobble NT race.
And that was a different flatcobble race with one more flat section.
s9 --> no flat cobble NT race
s8 --> CFFCC 230km = Australia (1º+19º) 320, versus Belgium (4º+18º) 230 = difference of 90 points
s7 --> CFFCC 230km = Australia (1º+18º) 330, versus Belgium (17º) 40 = difference of 290 points
s6 --> CFCCC 211km = Australia (4º+18º) 230, versus Belgium (12º) 100 = difference of 130 points
s5 --> CFCCC 190km, exactly the same race in Breskens = Australia (4º+17º) 240, versus Belgium (13º) 90 = difference of 150 points
s4 --> no flat cobble race
s3 --> CFCCC 190km, exactly the same race in Breskens = Australia (3º) 225, versus Belgium (11º) 110 = difference of 115 points
s2 --> CFFCC 230km = Australia (5º) 180, versus Belgium (4º+10º+12º) 420 = the only time Belgium was better
Some conclusions can be made out of this :
Of course, seasons 2 and 3 do not apply, too long ago, the situation changed a lot.
And it seems to me Angus Friend is better in the cobble race with 2 flat sections than in the Breskens cobble race.
Besides this, it shows that 160 points is a much bigger gap than it seems,
and probably Australia is depended on a failure race of Belgium to have a chance to be world champion.
Also remarkable (and maybe a bit worrying) that the best ranked Belgium flat cobble specialist never scored points so far.
But at least Australia still has a (maybe little ) chance after the good NT race 6 where much more points were scored as expected.
And the Belgian VanKerckhove won stage 3 Catalunya this season, so not surprising he did great in this exact same NT race 6 in Barcelona.
Anyway, it is not impossible that Australia can be world champion, and I did not expect this before NT race 6, what I mentioned in the preview :
Belgium is 1st and seems to me out of reach, ánd the top favorite to be the world champion again.
Also I expected that the battle for a podiumplace would be very fierce and many rival countries close together before NT race 7.
But Australia has at the moment a good gap of 400 points towards the number 3, what normally should be enough to finish at least 2nd.
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RACE 7 : BRESKENS
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/breskens.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/BXlkkM8.jpg?1)
29ºC (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento1.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)
Breskens, the Netherlands,
It looks very good that Australia will be 2nd this season, and even has a little chance to be the new world champion.
As the picture shows, the main target is Belgium. With home advantage, because almost this whole race is on Belgian cobblestones.
To have a very strong selection, only 1 xp cyclist and the 8 best flatcobble-specialists are selected. Of course, Angus Friend is the teamcaptain.
Australia NT selection :
Angus Friend ( 27 ) °Peachy°Melocotons
Eric Kelly* ( 28 ) Antequera
Kent McClure ( 28 ) CobbleCrushers
John Battle ( 28 ) Antequera
Jasper Sandfort ( 28 ) HorsCategorieProTeam
Jonny Glass ( 28 ) CCPicazo
Dylan Gilliam* ( 28 ) Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Ron Dardar ( 28 ) Antequera
Kirk Workman** ( 22 ) Aurora_Australis ( debut )
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After Amazing years Oscar Smith is on sale and already has 1 bid. Amazing rider for you National team, I hope that whoever will buy him, will take care of him.
Good luck with this last race, and for the future NT calendar!
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Hmmmm, remarkable, I guess Angus Friend was not motivated or so, the 3 EP start as teamcaptain was not good enough,
and despite his high GV and high flat, he was in s2 already in the 4th group (nrs64 to 99) on 0:44" ???
To make it even worse, very unexpected he was isolated in s3 and s4.
It was a very surprising bad race of Angus Friend compared to the other Australians.
To me it makes no sense, and I cheked the tactics a few times before the race, no mistakes there, and he was the teamcaptain.
Despite the bad race of the team captain, Australia scored many points ( 280 ) with 3 cyclists in the top20.
9º Battle ( surprising, successful free role tactic )
11º Friend :-[
17º Kelly ( Friend should have been in the wheel of best helper Kelly in s4, but Friend was far behind in s4 )
A 9º place is the worst result ever of Australia in a cobble flat race,
but the total amount of 280 points is good, it is even an Australian record in a cobble flat race with 1 flat section.
Unfortunately Belgium did much better in this NT race 7 with 4 cyclists in the top20, and scored 440 points.
So again Belgium is world champion, just like in previous season. And it seems to me it is a well deserved world championship.
Final season 10 ranking / podium ;
1. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/belgica.jpg) 2.155
2. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/australia.jpg) 1.835
3. (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/holanda.jpg) 1.370
Australia scored even 55 more points than what I predicted in my season 10 preview*.
And Australia scored more points this season 10 than the world champion of previous season 9 ( also Belgium with 1.620 points ).
* preview =
https://cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php?topic=632.msg21374#msg21374
And maybe Australia wins the individual world championship ?
Because the 7 NT race winners are on a split number 1 with 300 points, and CFF gives Richard Levin the nr1 position.
But I clicked all 7 cyclists, and nobody has the individual NT championship jersey yet of season 10. Maybe it will show after the update.
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Bad luck this time with Friend...anyway, Belgium did it very well, so congrats to Belgium, and great season VOS, we gain another medal, our 7th...we are historically the best National Team, hehe
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Thanks Franky, although this 2nd place is my worst result ( in CFF3 ) as Australian NT manager. :)) ;)
However, this 2nd season as NT manager finally "my" first NT race victory, of course, thanks to Aurora_Australis because Levin won the TT.
Maybe Levin wins the individual world championship as well, I guess we have to wait till the season update to know that.
( I have seen split first places a few times before in CFF2, the current ranking does not have to mean anything, I know from experience with Mutombo )
And indeed, Australia is doing great in the ( not yet updated ) ranking most medals and most points. 8)