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Title: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 01, 2020, 07:56:03 AM
AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13

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Somewhere on the road in Queensland

Welcome to season 13.  It's an ending of an era, with all of our favourite cyclists entering the twilight of their careers.  A few may make a farewell tour in season 14, but for so many their NT careers will end here.  Others will see opportunities & a new beginning.  So welcome to season 13, the ending of an era, heralding the arrival of the new.

Current Australian cyclist rankings below.
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Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 01, 2020, 11:59:25 AM
Indeed, I'm curious how the game will develop in this (and next) season now the enormous first generation will decrease on skills.

You were right about the individual world championship. Leonov (Ukraine) is the lucky one (out of the 7) who is awarded with the WC jersey.
This NT season the WC jersey will go to a hills specialist, so Australia will not win that price.
But very good to see that the both just 24yo Australian hills specialists of Quickstepbronx are listed high in the golden hills ranking.  8)

Thanks for the much appreciated lists. Have fun and good luck this season 13, AA !  :)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 01, 2020, 12:16:47 PM
Is anyone looking for 19yo aussies?? Where do we put my scout? ;D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 01, 2020, 02:16:17 PM
Also will have my scouts & promoters returning from break if anybody's training 19 year old Aussies this season.

Race 1
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/calta.jpg)

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Selections :
Austin Burton   31   Facha_Bartolo
John Jones   31   CC_Porco_Jones
Royce Henderson   31   Handest
Vinnie Coleman   30   galegospolabici
Dudley Judd   25   Telleriarte
Gerard Shields   24   Quickstepbronx (leader)
Zack Walkins   24   Quickstepbronx
Herbie Fredickson   23   MarquinaTeam
Marcus Glass   21   La_Vie_Claire
Prospects: Same race as last season, only no wind.  Gerald Shields will decrease in the official ratings by 0.45% at 1am Monday, which mathematically put him below Jones, however I've gone for a couple of minute differences in choosing him as leader.  They're not the best prospects regardless, however I believe we can still get points.

Results:
9th   Gerard Shields      24   130 points      Quickstepbronx
Well it beats last season's fail.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: horace_vr on November 02, 2020, 12:12:06 PM
Is anyone looking for 19yo aussies?? Where do we put my scout? ;D
I am looking for 19yo hill-cobblers, and I have a budget to spend if the circumstances are right :D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 02, 2020, 05:02:08 PM
Is anyone looking for 19yo aussies?? Where do we put my scout? ;D
I am looking for 19yo hill-cobblers, and I have a budget to spend if the circumstances are right :D

Noted!!
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 04, 2020, 08:21:10 AM
so, you wanted a cob-hiller, I got it!

Bob Janson   Age : 19   Wage : 828
Stamina : 60   Sprint : 14   Climbing : 23
Flat : 33   Cobblestone : 66   Technique : 68
Downhill : 43   Hills : 53   Aggressiveness : 55
Time Trial : 0   Teamwork : 8   Experience : 0
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: FIO on November 04, 2020, 08:38:31 AM
Hi Phil :)

Phil Finn   Age : 19   Wage : 807
Stamina : 58   Sprint : 17   Climbing : 23
Flat : 53   Cobblestone : 3   Technique : 63
Downhill : 25   Hills : 1   Aggressiveness : 39
Time Trial : 66   Teamwork : 53   Experience : 0
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: horace_vr on November 04, 2020, 07:26:33 PM
so, you wanted a cob-hiller, I got it!

Bob Janson   Age : 19   Wage : 828
Stamina : 60   Sprint : 14   Climbing : 23
Flat : 33   Cobblestone : 66   Technique : 68
Downhill : 43   Hills : 53   Aggressiveness : 55
Time Trial : 0   Teamwork : 8   Experience : 0

Nice! I can definitely make room for him ;)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 04, 2020, 08:56:29 PM
so, you wanted a cob-hiller, I got it!

Bob Janson   Age : 19   Wage : 828
Stamina : 60   Sprint : 14   Climbing : 23
Flat : 33   Cobblestone : 66   Technique : 68
Downhill : 43   Hills : 53   Aggressiveness : 55
Time Trial : 0   Teamwork : 8   Experience : 0

Nice! I can definitely make room for him ;)

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Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 05, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
It's likely that when my current group of 30-31 year old cyclists retire, that I'll be retiring from this game.  As such this will be my final season as NT captain.
AUSTRALIAN u24 - Cyclists to note
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Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: horace_vr on November 05, 2020, 05:11:20 PM
It's likely that when my current group of 30-31 year old cyclists retire, that I'll be retiring from this game.
I hope you are only speaking about the Time Trial game, or NT managing... #NailBitting
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 05, 2020, 07:39:15 PM
It's likely that when my current group of 30-31 year old cyclists retire, that I'll be retiring from this game.
I hope you are only speaking about the Time Trial game, or NT managing... #NailBitting

I hope he is only speaking about the NT managing, not CFF... #FingerBitting :-\
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 05, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
It's likely that when my current group of 30-31 year old cyclists retire, that I'll be retiring from this game.
Ai, sad to hear.  :'( Hopefully it is not because of something negative in real life.
Personally I hope you continue this game, AA, ( or play again after a break ) you are a very appreciated person. 8)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 07, 2020, 10:40:00 AM
I know I'm appreciated Vos.  Anyway, race 2.

Race 2
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/zinal.jpg)

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Selections :
Anthony Garza   31   SaulSalinasTeam (leader?)
Scott Springsteen   31   Borjiest
Colin Mount   26   Teka
Ryan Henderson   26   FrançaiseDesJeux
Jason Furey   24   PDM_cycling_team (leader?)

Prospects: They're several AV below the best, but we've scored points in the previous season & I expect to again.  Only question will be who's leader.

Results:
20th   Anthony Garza      31   0: 53"   10 points      SaulSalinasTeam
21st   Jason Furey      24   0: 53"   0 points      PDM_cycling_team

Have you watched the track relay in the Olympics, and they drop the baton...
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 07, 2020, 11:06:49 AM
I know I'm appreciated Vos.  Anyway, race 2.

Race 2
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/zinal.jpg)

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Selections :
Anthony Garza   31   SaulSalinasTeam (leader?)
Scott Springsteen   31   Borjiest
Colin Mount   26   Teka
Ryan Henderson   26   FrançaiseDesJeux
Jason Furey   24   PDM_cycling_team (leader?)

Prospects: They're several AV below the best, but we've scored points in the previous season & I expect to again.  Only question will be who' leader.

Results:
Well, it is a few seasons ago since I saw the Australian stats, and of course Furey improved a lot the past 2 seasons.
But back then I predicted that Furey would be the future Australian teamcaptain in pure climb races, it even seemed certain to me.
Another reason to make Furey the teamcaptain ;
Furey = nr 68 in the golden climb ranking ( listed as 16th pure climber )
Garza = nr 291 in the golden climb ranking ( not even listed as pure climber, but as flat climber )
Good luck !
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 07, 2020, 11:37:24 AM
Additional info ; I'm sure that Furey had 100 climb at the start of this season, so his climb skill is tomorrow at least 99,93 or higher.
A high climb skill can be important in this specific NT mountain race.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 07, 2020, 12:50:35 PM
Additional info ; I'm sure that Furey had 100 climb at the start of this season, so his climb skill is tomorrow at least 99,93 or higher.
A high climb skill can be important in this specific NT mountain race.
Furey's experience is also low, 2AV from experience counts for a lot & why it's close.  Btw: I appear to have had Furey pencilled as temp leader when I selected the first five several days ago, subject to seeing the actual stats Sunday.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 12, 2020, 09:05:51 AM
AUSTRALIAN u21 - Cyclists to note
Here's our first look at our youngest cyclists for the season.  click on paperclip (attachment) to view.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Toshette on November 12, 2020, 09:55:52 AM
Hi, I'm Brooklyn Abolins manager.

Brooklyn Abolins is talent 4 ;). He will train as a hiller.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 12, 2020, 07:16:36 PM
Hi Toshette :), good that Abolins has a high talent rating.
He came in the game with 1 star on cobblehills. Very good to train hills now to the 90. After that switch to cobble training ( also to the 90 ), because he has much more potential as cobblehills specialist than as a hills specialist, in my opinion.
Have fun and good luck with your team ! :)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 12, 2020, 07:38:33 PM
Another cobblehiller with 1*

Oliver Odom   Age : 19   Wage : 829
Stamina : 56   Sprint : 16   Climbing : 17
Flat : 21   Cobblestone : 64   Technique : 44
Downhill : 60   Hills : 60   Aggressiveness : 50
Time Trial : 19   Teamwork : 17   Experience : 0
Price : 1 000 000   Days left : 3   Stages raced : 0
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Toshette on November 12, 2020, 09:28:26 PM
Hi Toshette :), good that Abolins has a high talent rating.
He came in the game with 1 star on cobblehills. Very good to train hills now to the 90. After that switch to cobble training ( also to the 90 ), because he has much more potential as cobblehills specialist than as a hills specialist, in my opinion.
Have fun and good luck with your team ! :)

I'm not going to train cobble 100%. My leader, Paul Vince doesn't need cobble :(

So I've two options for Abolins...


Brooklyn Abolins (1)   Edad : 24    Sueldo : 847
Resistencia : 83    Sprint : 46    Montaña : 25
LLano : 61    Pavés : 96    Tecnica : 83
Descenso : 85    Colinas : 86    Agresividad : 66

Crono : 14   TraEqui : 41    Experiencia : 0

Brooklyn Abolins (2)   Edad : 24    Sueldo : 847
Resistencia : 92    Sprint : 46    Montaña : 25
LLano : 61    Pavés : 65    Tecnica : 83
Descenso : 95    Colinas : 100    Agresividad : 66

Crono : 14   TraEqui : 41    Experiencia : 0


With 24, 25, 26 he will train flat 100%.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Kekipi on November 13, 2020, 08:00:36 PM
My leader, Paul Vince doesn't need cobble :(
Thanks for training Vince.   Go USA!   :)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 13, 2020, 09:44:17 PM
I'm never an advocate for training <24 year olds at 70%, so given a choice between training that has to fit another cyclist or 70%, I'd recommend the fitting another cyclist option, unless it'd result in a sub-standard result in which case I'd sell when it'd become an issue.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 14, 2020, 10:07:52 AM
Jasper Blair   Age : 23   Wage : 860
Stamina : 66   Sprint : 96   Climbing : 15
Flat : 94   Cobblestone : 8   Technique : 92
Downhill : 27   Hills : 71   Aggressiveness : 71
Time Trial : 62   Teamwork : 70
   Experience : 41

(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sprintoro.jpg)

 :o :o :o

23yo and gold in sprint hills, in a few days he will be also gold in sprint flat
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 15, 2020, 11:22:30 AM
I'd been expecting gold before now Franky.

Race 3  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/bellin.jpg)

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Selections :Derek Nelson   31   Yvo_Meppelink_ProCycling (leader)
Tony Carter   31   HorsCategorieProTeam
Ryan Pierre   26   CC_Porco_Jones
Jasper Blair   23   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Wilt Frances   23   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team
Leroy Ablett   20   lasposturas

Three more to be selected.
Prospects: As a yardstick, I checked our guys against my own sprinter (who's been trained at 70% for over a season), and our top sprinter is over 2AV behind in short sprints (almost 3 behind in long sprints).  But hey, we defied ranking expectations last season, we can do it again this season.

Results:
18th   Derek Nelson      31   0: 21"   30 points      Yvo_Meppelink_ProCycling

Poor split in the field section 2, but Nelson probably would have had no teammate in section 4 with more protectionist aggression, so no sure if this was a poor result.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 15, 2020, 12:45:13 PM
Don't worry, next season will be different in sprint for us...  ;D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Spammie on November 15, 2020, 01:05:30 PM
Don't worry, Nelson always surprises in sprints :)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 15, 2020, 01:49:59 PM
Don't worry, Nelson always surprises in sprints :)

Also true  ;D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 16, 2020, 12:18:38 PM
. . . . . . . . . . NEWS FLASH . . . . . . . . . . NEWS FLASH . . . . . . . . . NEWSFLASH . . . . . . . . . .

Bern, Switzerland,
The old Australian NT bus is replaced by 2 brandnew trains to travel to the NT races in Europe. See picture below.
This season is used to test them with a NT calendar of 5 races in Switzerland, 2 races in Belgium and 1 race in Italy.
With these trains the expectation is that the Australian cyclists will be even more laidback and relaxed at the start as they already were.

Remarkable is the fact that these trains are designed by an Australian international ; Jasper Blair.
He is also the one who gave these trains their official name ; bullet trains.  :)
Upcoming Sunday the positive effect of this new Australian transportation can be noticable in the NT race in Bern.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wj3uOh4.jpg)
the new bullet trains of the Australian NT selection  8)

Do you want to experience a ride in these trains ?
Send your scout to Australia and train that young Australian talent very well. He might become good enough to enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 16, 2020, 03:14:16 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you crazy as fuck, dude!
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 20, 2020, 11:15:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vJSnT3J.png)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 20, 2020, 11:17:16 AM
Great picture and it looks amazing on his profile page !  8)  ;D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 22, 2020, 03:24:46 AM
Race 4  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/berntt.jpg)

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Selections :
Richard Levin   31   Aurora_Australis
Isaac Trump   31   Aurora_Australis
Paul Clickett   30   Aurora_Australis
Ben Mitchum   31   Aurora_Australis
Christian Pinkney   30   Aurora_Australis
Kirk Workman   25   Aurora_Australis

Three more to be selected.
Prospects: Final shot at TT glory.  The next NT manager may have different ideas, however if Owen's selected this race, it'll be his last, and likely Mitchum's as well.

Results:
3rd   Ben Mitchum      31   0: 03"   225      Aurora_Australis
5th   Isaac Trump      31   0: 05"   180      Aurora_Australis
7th   Richard Levin      31   0: 05"   150      Aurora_Australis
9th   Christian Pinkney      30   0: 07"   130      Aurora_Australis
12th   Paul Clickett      30   0: 08"   100      Aurora_Australis
16th   Owen Acree      31   0: 11"   60      Aurora_Australis

27th   Kirk Workman      25   0: 15"   0      Aurora_Australis
31st   Dean Shields      26   0: 17"   0      Aurora_Australis

Unfortunately not one final victory, but still a handy point's tally.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 22, 2020, 03:39:07 AM
Current rough score after taking into account weather.
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#   Score   Name   Age   Team
1   98.30   Richard Levin   31   Aurora_Australis
2   98.19   Isaac Trump   31   Aurora_Australis
3   97.82   Paul Clickett   30   Aurora_Australis
4   97.70   Ben Mitchum   31   Aurora_Australis (1 weather)
5   97.44   Christian Pinkney   30   Aurora_Australis

6   96.33   Owen Acree   31   Aurora_Australis
7   96.20   Kirk Workman   25   Aurora_Australis (1 weather)
8   95.90   Cameron Carter   29   Antequera (2 weather)
9   95.83   Neil Bell   30   SPORTLIFE
10   95.70   Dean Shields   26   Aurora_Australis (1 weather)
11   95.52   David Wilson   29   Facha_Bartolo
12   95.50   Gilbert Byers   27   TeamSalpeter (1 weather)
13   95.45   Chris Montgomery   29   Frenkie (1 weather)
14   95.20   Charles Iverson   25   BlackHole (1 weather)
15   94.64   Steve Odom   25   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team

Workman's selected before Acree due to age.  I'm not certain Acree's good enough for selection, which really removes anybody else of advancing age, and maybe even the next 25-26 yo below Workman.  Carter's too old to play for the future, and the next age group has Shields for selection (2nd to Workman), who for NT is kinda a temporary bubble choice.  So we might go for at least one underage TTer.

(btw, just for record, most of my TTers are at 99.9 TT, as I switched from TT this week.)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on November 22, 2020, 09:23:42 PM
Unfortunately this time no NT race victory.
But , , , , 12º and 16º is not a bad race result. All 6 point scoring cyclists are of your own team Aurora_Australis.
And Australia is now high ranked ; nr3 and 200 points behind the nr1 and 315 points ahead of the nr4.
Have fun and good luck in the next NT race, AA !
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on November 25, 2020, 08:27:00 AM
Wilt "The Gun" Frances is also gold now!

(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sprintoro.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento3.jpg)(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
Wilt Frances   Age : 23   Wage : 817
Stamina : 73   Sprint : 95   Climbing : 26
Flat : 90   Cobblestone : 44   Technique : 72
Downhill : 24   Hills : 78   Aggressiveness : 77
Time Trial : 9   Teamwork : 71   Experience : 27

I think he is going to be Jasper's best friend  ;D
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 29, 2020, 01:34:59 PM
Race 5
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/flandes.jpg)

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Selections :
Kirk Trump   31   $Tourmalet
Alex Byers   30   Fountain
Sam Rooney   23   Lemarche
Steve Morse   23   LanihuliCycling

Rest to be selected once I see the younger cyclists.
Prospects: Not going to happen

Results:
28th   Alex Byers      30   0: 53"   0 points      Fountain
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on November 29, 2020, 01:56:42 PM
AUSTRALIAN u21 - Cyclists to note
Something more interesting to look at than the upcoming NT race's prospects.  Click on paperclip (attachment) to view.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on December 03, 2020, 11:01:53 PM
Because I have a policy that underaged cyclists of note should typically get one NT race for experience where there's gaps in selections (providing a team's doing everything right for the cyclist), here's a list of under 23 cyclists who've been selected in a NT race so far this season & therefore are unlikely to be selected in the final two races if spaces are free.

Marcus Glass   21   La_Vie_Claire
Jason Duffy   21   Frenkie
Norm Bush   21   Orange
Leroy Ablett   20   lasposturas
Nobby Licuria   20   Aurora_Australis
Kirk Clinton   20   Aurora_Australis
Markus Benett   20   Aurora_Australis
Bud Mount   21   ChronoTony
Marc Huling   20   CobbleCrushers
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: B.E-L on December 04, 2020, 05:50:37 PM
To bad Patrick Cann has an very low talent. Otherwise he would be an excellent candidate for the last 2 races  :(
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on December 05, 2020, 12:02:13 PM
Yeah, low talent is deadly, particularly with TT (you should see the list of multi-million dollar transfers I sent straight to fruit picking).

Race 6  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/lieja.jpg)

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Selections :
Austin Burton   31   Facha_Bartolo
Royce Henderson   31   Handest
Vinnie Coleman   30   galegospolabici
Gerard Shields   24   Quickstepbronx (leader)
Zack Walkins   24   Quickstepbronx
Herbie Fredickson   23   MarquinaTeam

Three more to be selected, John Jones won't be one of them (three top tens in NTs - one podium, last NT top ten was 6th in season 11).
Prospects: Well Gerard did better than expected earlier in the season, and now he has a cold weather bonus.  And most of the other guys are creeping toward old age.  Dare we hope for a podium?  Tactics will be gambling for it.

Results:
18th   Gerard Shields      24   0: 32"   30 points      Quickstepbronx
Unexpected high result in previous NT race possibly contributed to overinflated hopes.  Late change in tactics to a more aggressive one failed, with Shields missing the split & wasting energy.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Kekipi on December 06, 2020, 08:51:58 PM
AUSTRALIAN u21 - Cyclists to note
Something more interesting to look at than the upcoming NT race's prospects.  Click on paperclip (attachment) to view.

Thanks for posting this.  For comparison purposes, it's good-to-know stuff.

As time and motivation permits, I'll post the numbers for USA's U21s.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on December 07, 2020, 10:26:30 AM
Thanks for the lists / great job, Aurora Australis.  8)

To all Australian managers : Who will be a NT manager candidate for next season ?
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on December 07, 2020, 11:49:32 AM
I'm not in the mood this time...
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on December 12, 2020, 04:21:13 AM
Race 7  (https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg)
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/fri.jpg)

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Selections :
Angus Friend   30   El_Viejo_Acordeón
Keith Hunter   23   catapunchimpon
Kent McClure   31   Yvo_Meppelink_ProCycling
John Battle   31   Antequera
Peter Boit   23   Vitimper

Four more to be selected, Liam Armstrong of Orange likely to get exp spot if there's one free (would have been given it last race, but was late enquiring about one thing).
Prospects: This is my last race here.  Unfortunately Angus appears to have had a hard season, and his cobbling average has dropped, so I'm not sure a win is achievable, but we'll go on the belief it is.

Results:
1st   Angus Friend      30   0: 00"   300      El_Viejo_Acordeón
8th   Keith Hunter      23   0: 28"   140      catapunchimpon

Not sure how far Angus has dropped on the gold cobbles rankings, but it much be on the limit.  8th for Hunter as a domestique promises good tidings for the future.
Btw: Wouldn't it be nice if we could set different NT managers for different races, NT cobbles seems to love me more than a certain other race type.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on December 12, 2020, 05:41:23 PM
After one week still no Australian NT candidate.
Because there is a big chance I will be the next NT manager automatically, I decided to register as candidate.
If there will be another good candidate who is motivated to do this honorable and fun job, most likely I will withdraw as candidate.
Hopefully also next season the old TT specialists of AA can ride the NT time trial. I estimate they still can score many points next season.

Good luck in NT race 7, Aurora Australis !
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on December 12, 2020, 05:43:53 PM
I hope Zatarra, Tourmalet or Antequera wants to be NT one day...they are good managers too, so we have a bunch of experienced managers...
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on December 13, 2020, 02:49:30 PM
Hopefully also next season the old TT specialists of AA can ride the NT time trial. I estimate they still can score many points next season.
They'll score plenty of points.  There's a remote possibility of a final victory, although I suspect race 4 will be a bridge too far for that..., of course there could be a super weather event for Kirk Workman.

Btw: Keith Hunter looks good to possibly take on captain responsibilities in the cobbles next season, so that will be something.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on December 13, 2020, 10:05:46 PM
Great victory of Angus Friend, very well done Aurora Australis !  8)
Btw: Keith Hunter looks good to possibly take on captain responsibilities in the cobbles next season, so that will be something.
Indeed, Keith Hunter is very high ranked and just 23yo.
And already very valuable in this NT race, it seems to me that in your great tactics the key to victory was Hunter, who finished as himself.  8)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on December 13, 2020, 10:31:26 PM
I hope Zatarra, Tourmalet or Antequera wants to be NT one day...they are good managers too, so we have a bunch of experienced managers...
Indeed for sure !
And we have more good managers Down Under, such as Horace ( TeaMetal ), Telamon ( Frenkie ), and probably I forget someone now.

If someone has some hesitation because it is a responsible job. No worries, you can do it only wrong if you don't have a NT selection.
And I assume (and even know) that if you want feedback about selection-choice, teamcaptain-choice and tactical choices ;
all Australian managers are willing to help you.

And keep in mind ; mistakes or even big tactical failures are part of the game, and for sure the case in the NT races.
Every NT manager makes mistakes and even experiences big failures sometimes.
A perfect CFF manager does not excist, you are an excellent manager if you make less mistakes than the rival managers.

Are you up for the challenge next season 14 ?
There is nothing to lose, you can only win experience for yourself and win respect of other Australian managers.
Also very nice ; next season you can still profit of the amazing TT team of Aurora Australis. More fun to compete with many extra points.
And it seems to me the future of Australia is not bad at all. It is also fun to ride with the few amazing young Australian top talents. :)

If there will be no other candidates, no problem for me to do this honorable and fun job next season.
But next season can be a great opportunity for someone else to experience being an Australian NT manager (you cannot do it wrong).
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on December 14, 2020, 04:29:45 PM
23 year old Jasper is now our best sprinter, with 23 yo primary domestiques; they should score well.
24 year old Jason Furey is now our best climber, with two 26 yo domestiques in top five (I still think climbing stocks is a little marginal).
24 year old Gerald Shields is our best hiller, with his 24 yo teammate 3rd domestique, and another 23 yo domestique; they aren't yet the best (not sure on their ranking on the gold list), but the ranks of top hillers in CFF will start thinning.
23 year old Keith Hunter got 8th last NT race as a domestique, he's going to slip right into the top tier of CFF.

Of course the TT is still ruled by the old guys in my team, but they're still hanging up at the top of CFF rankings, and Kirk Workman is there if weather is favourable.  There's actually an opportunity for somebody to come in as NT manager & get solid results, so it's worth considering for those who haven't done it.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on December 14, 2020, 05:20:12 PM
Yep, we are not so bad, we have a few guys that can give us points or even winning races, but I still think it is because we have a few managers very dedicated to the country, promoting aussies, and training them, over their chances to promoting to First Division, or even fighting to win important things... and this is so good, but also risky for our future.

Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Aurora Australis on December 16, 2020, 02:05:51 PM
The calculations will be different with a new NT manager next season, but in saying goodbye as we head into a generation renewal, I'm providing one final cyclist comparison.  This one is the best single cyclist in each basic category, the best 23-26 year old if not the best overall already, and a selection of top 19-22 year olds to show a progression.  Some youth sections look great, some will be seeking better in the next few seasons.  Anyway, click on attachment to view.

Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Vos on December 16, 2020, 06:11:50 PM
Great overview, AA !  8)
Still no other Australian NT candidate, so I can use this overview very well in my selection policy of xp cyclists. Thanks ! :)
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Kekipi on December 17, 2020, 06:18:42 PM
The calculations will be different with a new NT manager next season, but in saying goodbye as we head into a generation renewal, I'm providing one final cyclist comparison.  This one is the best single cyclist in each basic category, the best 23-26 year old if not the best overall already, and a selection of top 19-22 year olds to show a progression.  Some youth sections look great, some will be seeking better in the next few seasons.  Anyway, click on attachment to view.

I.like.this.a.lot.

Will do something similar for USA, so thanks and credit to you for the idea.
Title: Re: AUSTRALIAN NT - Season 13 - Ending of an era
Post by: Franky on December 18, 2020, 09:16:05 AM
So, as Jasper ended his important training phase, I'm going to start training him hills for a while, so...I will be promoting hillers. I know that is not what we need the most but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you promote a good aussie hiller, I'll be glad to buy him  :)