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Title: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on December 18, 2020, 10:03:34 PM
Deadline to send forecasts for winners of season 14 is open now.

Races are the following:

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
Strade Bianche
Tirreno Adriatico
Milano Sanremo
Gent Wevelgem
De Ronde van Vlaanderen
Itzulia
Paris Roubaix
Amstel Gold Race
Flèche Wallonne
Liège–Bastogne–Liège
Giro d'Italia
Tour de Suisse
Tour de France
Clásica San Sebastián
BinckBank Tour
La Vuelta
Giro Lombardia
Lisboa TT WC
Lisboa WC
Golden bike (cyclist with highest points in 1st division)

Score:
1 point for each winner guessed, Classic A category, World championships and Golden Bike
2 points for the winners guessed, Small Tour
3,2,1 points for the guessed Podiums of the 3 great Tour + 0.5 points to guess a podium in a different position.

This season the forecasts will be private again. Whoever wants to participate must send me a private message in forum, game or chat, indicating winners and podiums of the races in the list. Deadline will be on 23rd December 2020 at 04:59, CFF time, with the stage 5 of TDU. All the forecasts will be posted the next day.

The prize for the winner will be 1 month of supporter in the game, same as past seasons.

All users can participate, but the races indicated are exclusively for riders of the first division.
The maximum achievable points are 40.
The 1-day classic, category A:
- Fixed (9): Milano Sanremo, Gent Wevelgem, De Ronde van Vlaanderen, Paris Roubaix, Amstel Gold Race, Flèche Wallonne, Liège–Bastogne–Liège, Clasica San Sebastian, Giro Lombardia
- (2) variables, random for each year, of the remaining not cited classic
- The 2 Cycling world championships (of CFF3)
- Golden Bike (1)
- (4) variables, random for each year, of the remaining small tour
The PODIUM of:
- the 3 Great Tours

Copy-paste:

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad:
Strade Bianche:
Tirreno Adriatico:
Milano Sanremo:
Gent Wevelgem:
De Ronde van Vlaanderen:
Itzulia:
Paris Roubaix:
Amstel Gold Race:
Flèche Wallonne:
Liège–Bastogne–Liège:
Giro d'Italia - 1º:   2º:   3º:
Tour de Suisse:
Tour de France - 1º:   2º:   3º:
Clasica San Sebastian:
BinckBank Tour:
La Vuelta - 1º:   2º:   3º:
Giro Lombardia:     
Lisboa TT WC:
Lisboa WC:
Golden bike:
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on December 18, 2020, 11:41:40 PM
Sorry, I was copy-pasting too fast and I missed it. I've modified it now. Thanks Vos!
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Vos on December 18, 2020, 11:42:14 PM
Thanks for organizing the Prediction Race again, Ophiuko.  8)
Good luck everyone !
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on December 22, 2020, 08:20:46 PM
Just a reminder that tonight is the deadline
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on December 23, 2020, 11:11:04 AM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670319639120838656/791246196936802304/unknown.png)
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on December 24, 2020, 10:44:43 AM
Spitz 2
MarquinaTeam 1
RealMurciaCycling 1
Villavante 1
ZG 1
JGMTeam 1
Azerite 1
Mlb 1
Bikeos 1
Sportlife 1
LottoStelvio 0
Quickstepbronx 0
TeamEuroscalt 0
OphiukoCT 0
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on December 29, 2020, 12:05:03 PM
Milano Sanremo update:

Spitz 4
MarquinaTeam 3
RealMurciaCycling 3
ZG 3
JGMTeam 3
Azerite 3
Mlb 3
Bikeos 3
TeamEuroscalt 2
OphiukoCT 2
Sportlife 2
Villavante 1
LottoStelvio 0
Quickstepbronx 0
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 03, 2021, 11:55:50 AM
De Ronde van Vlaanderen update:

Spitz 4
MarquinaTeam 4
RealMurciaCycling 4
ZG 4
JGMTeam 4
Azerite 4
Bikeos 4
Mlb 3
OphiukoCT 3
Sportlife 3
TeamEuroscalt 2
Villavante 1
LottoStelvio 1
Quickstepbronx 0
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Vos on January 06, 2021, 08:53:57 AM
Paris Roubaix predictions = 12x Travin, 1x Mazzola, 1x Jørgensen.

(https://i.imgur.com/jDOibWj.jpg)
The final sprint between 1st favorite Travin ( Thorboassonarvesen ) and not-favorite Jørgensen ( SPORTLIFE ) ; 1 milimeter difference !
I was almost the only one with the right prediction. :-\
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Vos on January 06, 2021, 09:26:02 AM
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasoro.jpg) Prediction Favorites in the hills classic races =
( *= my predictions )

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/3e32533ac76b4ffb201abdd06e294296.png) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Valter ; ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Verbeek* ; ⭐⭐Caldeira ; ⭐Ambrosio.
CFF favorites AGR =
1. Viriato Ambrosio  ( Quickstepbronx )
2. András Valter  ( Quickstepbronx )
3. Arno Verbeek  ( TeamRHB )
4. Belarmino Caldeira  ( QuintoYtapa )
5. Manolo Aguado  ( QuintoYtapa )

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/878c5b14a182c6bc32c34225dc0ea4ac.png) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Verbeek ; ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Valter ; ⭐⭐Ambrosio* ; ⭐Caldeira.
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/efa831ccc1a7fbb3aa0a0b83aae8aae7.png) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Valter* ; ⭐⭐Verbeek ; ⭐Aguado ; ⭐Ambrosio.
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Sjiz on January 06, 2021, 11:37:12 AM
Maybe a nice addition for next season: predict the top 3 of the eams in 1a
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Sjiz on January 06, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
(https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/colinasoro.jpg) Prediction Favorites in the hills classic races =
( *= my predictions )

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/3e32533ac76b4ffb201abdd06e294296.png) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Valter ; ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Verbeek* ; ⭐⭐Caldeira ; ⭐Ambrosio.
CFF favorites AGR =
1. Viriato Ambrosio  ( Quickstepbronx )
2. András Valter  ( Quickstepbronx )
3. Arno Verbeek  ( TeamRHB )
4. Belarmino Caldeira  ( QuintoYtapa )
5. Manolo Aguado  ( QuintoYtapa )

(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/878c5b14a182c6bc32c34225dc0ea4ac.png) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Verbeek ; ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Valter ; ⭐⭐Ambrosio* ; ⭐Caldeira.
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/efa831ccc1a7fbb3aa0a0b83aae8aae7.png) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Valter* ; ⭐⭐Verbeek ; ⭐Aguado ; ⭐Ambrosio.

It will be hard for Verbeek with some extra very strong teams around.
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 06, 2021, 09:03:30 PM
Nice preview Vos... I'm thinking of doing it for every race!

Maybe a nice addition for next season: predict the top 3 of the eams in 1a

Great idea! It has also been suggested in the chat to include national teams on the predictions, but what? Stages? Cyclist ranking? Countries ranking? I'm open to suggestions, everyone please give your opinions
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 06, 2021, 09:05:52 PM
Update after Amstel:

Spitz 6
MarquinaTeam 5
RealMurciaCycling 5
ZG 5
JGMTeam 5
Bikeos 5
OphiukoCT 5
Azerite 4
Mlb 4
Sportlife 3
TeamEuroscalt 3
Villavante 2
LottoStelvio 2
Quickstepbronx 1
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 07, 2021, 07:27:58 PM
Ardennes:

1. OphiukoCT 7
2. Spitz 6
2. RealMurciaCycling 6
2. Bikeos 6
5. MarquinaTeam 5
5. ZG 5
5. JGMTeam 5
5. Azerite 5
9. Mlb 4
9. TeamEuroscalt 4
11. Sportlife 3
11. Villavante 3
13. LottoStelvio 2
14. Quickstepbronx 1

I guessed the 3 Ardennes  :o
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Sjiz on January 07, 2021, 07:33:58 PM
I guessed the 3 Ardennes  :o

For next season pick verbeek for all 3 then ;)
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Vos on January 07, 2021, 07:36:34 PM
Impressive and well done, Ophiuko.  8)
My effort in making a favorites preview of the hills classic races is rewarded with exactly 0 points. :))
But no worries, my prediction of the Giro should be entirely correct. :P What gives me 6 points and a Giro podiumplace for my Samsonov.^^
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 15, 2021, 09:01:35 PM
Giro d'Italia

1. OphiukoCT 7
2. Spitz 6
2. RealMurciaCycling 6
2. Bikeos 6
5. MarquinaTeam 5
5. ZG 5
5. JGMTeam 5
5. Azerite 5
9. Mlb 4.5
10. TeamEuroscalt 4
11. Sportlife 3
11. Villavante 3
13. LottoStelvio 2
14. Quickstepbronx 1

Only Mlb has earned 0.5 points after guessing the podium position of Sandis Stabulnieks. This podium has been the most unexpected ever.
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 21, 2021, 01:41:37 PM
Tour de Suisse:

1. OphiukoCT 7
1. Azerite 7
3. Spitz 6
3. RealMurciaCycling 6
3. Bikeos 6
6. MarquinaTeam 5
6. ZG 5
6. JGMTeam 5
9. Mlb 4.5
10. TeamEuroscalt 4
10. LottoStelvio 4
12. Sportlife 3
12. Villavante 3
14. Quickstepbronx 1
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 26, 2021, 10:43:39 AM
Tour de France and San Sebastian:

1. OphiukoCT 10
1. Bikeos 10
3. Azerite 9.5
4. TeamEuroscalt 8.5
5. MarquinaTeam 8
5. LottoStelvio 8
7. RealMurciaCycling 7.5
7. Mlb 7.5
9. Spitz 7
9. Sportlife 7
9. Villavante 7
12. ZG 6
13. JGMTeam 5.5
14. Quickstepbronx 1
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on January 29, 2021, 09:51:50 AM
No guessers for BBT!
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Vos on January 29, 2021, 12:02:19 PM
(https://www.worldcyclingstats.com/img/logos/c8892128eff206aeb674bcc6880a73a6.png)  Favorites Prediction Race :

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐,2,2,2 = Anthony Hilton  ( CaptainOrange )
⭐,2,2,3 = Rafael Carlos Loinaz  ( TeamRHB )
⭐,2,2,3 = Nathan Lust  ( FaltososDeChigre )
⭐,2 = Lazare Pires  ( FrançaiseDesJeux )
- - - - - - - - - -
outsiders :
3,3 = Aksel Blix  ( Aspigarri )
3,3 = Tjerk Tusveld  ( SPORTLIFE )
3 = Yvo VanStraalen  ( Combuijs )
3 = Adam Zipp  ( azerite )
- - - - - - - - - -
not participating :
Oscar Marcos (1,2,3), Alexander Rusakov (1), Sergey Rodionov (2,2,3,3), Ivan Semon (2,2), David Manuel Piñeiro (3), Zsombor Endrõdi (3).
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Sjiz on January 29, 2021, 12:41:49 PM
If Loinaz gets silver i will be happy :p
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Combuijs on January 29, 2021, 06:20:02 PM
Van Straalen outsider? People that tell you that, are not insiders  8) ...
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on February 02, 2021, 08:21:40 PM
La Vuelta:

1. OphiukoCT 11.5
2. Bikeos 10.5
3. Azerite 10
3. Sportlife 10
5. RealMurciaCycling 9.5
6. LottoStelvio 9
6. Villavante 9
8. TeamEuroscalt 8.5
8. MarquinaTeam 8.5
8. Mlb 8.5
11. Spitz 7
12. ZG 6.5
13. JGMTeam 6
14. Quickstepbronx 1
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on February 02, 2021, 08:28:16 PM
The competition is very tight, considering that Sportlife, RealMurciaCycling and LottoStelvio have probably guessed the golden bike and will add +1 (Sportlife 11, RealMurciaCycling 10.5 and LottoStelvio 10). Last 3 races will determine the winner for sure
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on February 03, 2021, 10:06:01 AM
Lombardia and Golden Bike update:

1. OphiukoCT 11.5
2. Sportlife 11
3. Bikeos 10.5
3. RealMurciaCycling 10.5
5. Azerite 10
5. LottoStelvio 10
7. TeamEuroscalt 9.5
7. Mlb 9.5
9. Villavante 9
10. MarquinaTeam 8.5
11. Spitz 8
12. ZG 7.5
13. JGMTeam 7
14. Quickstepbronx 2

2 more points at stake. 7 managers still with winning options.
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on February 03, 2021, 10:19:12 AM
Lisbon, Portugal

TT World Championship
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Jelle Mourik
⭐⭐⭐ Leons Salna
⭐ David McDermot

World Championship
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Denis Preisig
⭐⭐⭐Andras Valter
⭐⭐Bob Kluivert
⭐Belarmino Caldeira
⭐Viriato Ambrosio
⭐Gerard Shields


Candidates for winning the guessing game:
OphiukoCT: Jelle Mourik/Bob Kluivert
Sportlife: Leons Salna/Denis Preisig
Bikeos: Jelle Mourik/Denis Preisig
RealMurciaCycling: Jelle Mourik/Andras Valter
Azerite: Leons Salna/Denis Preisig
LottoStelvio: Jelle Mourik/Gerard Shields
Team Euroscalt: Jelle Mourik/Denis Preisig
Mlb: Leons Salna/Viriato Ambrosio

Considering that presumably Valter will try to reach the Bronze bike and therefore will be the leader of his team. It will all depend on the TT, plus RealMurciaCycling is a strong candidate if Valter wins.
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Vos on February 03, 2021, 10:40:50 AM
Great job, Ophiuko, again a big chapeau for your efforts in this fun Prediction Race.  8)
And for the first time ever I'm competing for victory.  :)

I have adjusted the possible candidates to win it ;

Candidates for winning the guessing game:

11,5  OphiukoCT: Jelle Mourik/Bob Kluivert
11,0  Sportlife: Leons Salna/Denis Preisig
10,5  Bikeos: Jelle Mourik/Denis Preisig
10,5  RealMurciaCycling: Jelle Mourik/Andras Valter
10,0  Azerite: Leons Salna/Denis Preisig  --> cannot win, because the same 2 choices as Sportlife.
10,0  LottoStelvio: Jelle Mourik/Gerard Shields  --> cannot win, because 1 same choice as OphiukoCT.
09,5  Team Euroscalt: Jelle Mourik/Denis Preisig  --> cannot win, because 1 same choice as OphiukoCT (and Sportlife).
09,5  Mlb: Leons Salna/Viriato Ambrosio  --> cannot win, because 1 same choice as Sportlife.

4 possible outcomes =

# OphiukoCT wins
# OphiukoCT and Bikeos, both win
# OphiukoCT and RealMurciaCycling, both win
# Sportlife wins

Let's hope the last possibility will happen.  :))
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Aurora Australis on February 03, 2021, 11:32:40 AM
Lisbon, Portugal
TT World Championship
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Jelle Mourik
⭐⭐⭐ Leons Salna
⭐ David McDermot
McDermot has zero chance, I'm not sure whether he even scored points last season's TT WC (which was the same course).
Btw: Leons Salna should be favourite with the weather bonus.
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Sjiz on February 03, 2021, 01:49:23 PM
Lisbon, Portugal
TT World Championship
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Jelle Mourik
⭐⭐⭐ Leons Salna
⭐ David McDermot
McDermot has zero chance, I'm not sure whether he even scored points last season's TT WC (which was the same course).
Btw: Leons Salna should be favourite with the weather bonus.

I think its just the names mentioned as winners, not 'real' favourites. Otherwise Verbeek feels left out for the road race prediction :P
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on February 04, 2021, 09:40:44 AM
Final results:

1. OphiukoCT 12.5
2. Sportlife 11
3. Bikeos 10.5
3. RealMurciaCycling 10.5
5. Azerite 10
5. LottoStelvio 10
7. TeamEuroscalt 9.5
7. Mlb 9.5
9. Villavante 9
9. Spitz 9
11. MarquinaTeam 8.5
12. ZG 7.5
13. JGMTeam 7
14. Quickstepbronx 2

Hall of fame:

Season 7: Marcatone_Due/Flandria (15 p)
Season 8: Aurora_Australis (17 p)
Season 9: Cabrasverdes (13 p)
Season 10: Quickstepbronx (10 p)
Season 11: OphiukoCT (18 p)
Season 12: Mlb (16 p)
Season 13: TeamRHB (17.5 p)
Season 14: OphiukoCT (12.5 p)
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: ophiuko on February 04, 2021, 09:47:34 AM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564826389765816343/806807991294492682/unknown.png)
Title: Re: Guess who will win season 14
Post by: Vos on February 04, 2021, 01:32:09 PM
Final results:

1. OphiukoCT 12.5
2. Sportlife 11
3. Bikeos 10.5
3. RealMurciaCycling 10.5
5. Azerite 10
5. LottoStelvio 10
7. TeamEuroscalt 9.5
7. Mlb 9.5
9. Villavante 9
9. Spitz 9
11. MarquinaTeam 8.5
12. ZG 7.5
13. JGMTeam 7
14. Quickstepbronx 2

Great overviews and congratulations with the victory, OphiukoCT !  8)

I was close, but happy with my by far best result in the Prediction Race.
Probably this is even the first time I finished in the top half of all participants.