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Re: s2 : Australia NT
« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2019, 01:20:20 PM »
No2 in climb-hills (Marbley) is on the list. He doesn't fit my training schedule really well and I want to have a free place in my team.

Brendan Marbley  Age : 19  Wage : 819  Stamina : 56  Sprint : 7  Climbing : 77  Flat : 21  Cobblestone : 23  Technique : 31  Downhill : 53  Hills : 67Aggressiveness : 40  Time Trial : 53  Teamwork : 9  Experience : 1  Price : 2 400 000  Days left : 3
shiiiiatt, I already have 20 guys!

The 19yo Australians of SPORTLIFE are also for sale.
Climbers with great flat and perhaps good potential, despite they came into the game late, therefore talent rating is unknown.
Just Beal was recruited a few days ago, but too lazy to find out what he has. I wish I recruited so well at the start of the season.
Beal came into the game with 1 star and he has a wind icon. Winger has as extra a good cobbleskill and a high salary.

Who will give Beal, Winger, Lust and Finn a chance in this game ?  :)
They are on the transfermarket for just 1,-
Beal
https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=24902
Winger
https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=25648
Lust
https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=25850
Finn
https://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=26114

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Re: s2 : Australia NT
« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2019, 01:29:36 PM »
Yep, I already saw all of them...

But right now i'm not going to sell any guy from my team, so, I think that it is enough with the 5 young ones that I have right now

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Re: s2 : Australia NT
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2019, 06:07:04 AM »
I suspect that Trump & Levin are now the top 2 TTers, that Mitchum is now on the list, and 19 year old Pinkney is possibly just outside it.

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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2019, 10:49:12 AM »
u21 lists ( 299 x 20yo's and 54 x 19yo's )


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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2019, 11:09:46 AM »
I suspect that Trump & Levin are now the top 2 TTers, that Mitchum is now on the list, and 19 year old Pinkney is possibly just outside it.
Yes, your suspicion is correct.

The best 19yo Australian time trialist Pinkney is on the 23rd place with 69,40
The Australian top 9 of 19yo TT specialists are all of your team :

23rd Pinkney     69,40
32nd Clickett     66,28
34th Power     64,65
36th Bell     63,97
37th Malone     63,72
39th Coburn     63,35
40th Wade     62,76
41st Sheenan     62,42
44th Nixon     61,17

There are two 19yo's in the u21 lists ; Friend (cobble) and Byers (cobble-hills), both of Marineros. They must be really good.
Of course Pinkney is very good also. He finished as 2nd best 19yo in the NT TT race of last Sunday, just one 19yo Hungarian was better.

Lots of changes in the u21 lists because of the training speed, the talent rating and how good the manager is training his Aussie(s).
Less remarkable is that Beal lost his nr1 hills position, because I saw earlier this week that he dissapeared out of the u21 dream team.
Now Australia has just 2 cyclists in the u23 dream team ; a hill-sprinter (7th) and a climb-TT-specialist (5th).
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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2019, 12:12:38 PM »
McClure is moving down in the cobble lists. His talent rating is good, so must be the fact that I was training his skill 90+. Seems the others stop at 90 maybe? I switched to 70% 40+ training on stamina so I assume he will rise again, also given the fact that in a few days he will get 100% 40/60+ training on flat. He will return in the top5 for sure!

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Re: s2 : Australia NT
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2019, 12:43:57 PM »
u21 lists ( 299 x 20yo's and 54 x 19yo's )


For Climb-Hills are you using same % for climbing than hills? more climbing or more hills? because in the calendar we have very different kind of stages, like Lombardia/San Sebastian/Güeñes(Itzulia) or like the one in the Giro or Vuelta next season... in fact, is hard to find a Climbing stage with a bit of hills now...

Just to know if Joe is far away from his objective (be one of the greateast in Lombardia/SanSebastian/Eschborn)

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« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2019, 02:53:18 PM »
McClure is moving down in the cobble lists. His talent rating is good, so must be the fact that I was training his skill 90+. Seems the others stop at 90 maybe? I switched to 70% 40+ training on stamina so I assume he will rise again, also given the fact that in a few days he will get 100% 40/60+ training on flat. He will return in the top5 for sure!
Yes, you are right, just 2 above McClure have also a high cobble skill (93). 5 above him have not even reached the 90 yet.
The 94 of McClure is more than enough because of the u24 bonus, as you know.
According to me when I compare ; the main reason McClure is temporarily low, that is because of his stamina and flat.
Of course technique and sprint are important also.
Sprint is very different for each one. And somehow all Aussies have about the same low technique as McClure.

And no worries, I always look at the potential of a cyclist also, not just the GV. A high mainskill means less training on that and more potential because he can train on other important skills.
Also keep in mind that is just a snapshot of the moment. McClure is less than 1 GV point behind the number 2, and I cannot see what is  behind the comma of a cyclist. This ranking could be very different after just a few days, it is very close together.
So a few trainings on 70% stamina shows compared to the others, and I agree with you that McClure will raise fast when he trains 100% flat (that counts almost twice as much as stamina or sprint or technique).
Good luck in training McClure, despite his temporarily 10th place we are very happy with him Down Under.  :)


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« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2019, 03:25:19 PM »
For Climb-Hills are you using same % for climbing than hills? more climbing or more hills? because in the calendar we have very different kind of stages, like Lombardia/San Sebastian/Güeñes(Itzulia) or like the one in the Giro or Vuelta next season... in fact, is hard to find a Climbing stage with a bit of hills now...

Just to know if Joe is far away from his objective (be one of the greateast in Lombardia/SanSebastian/Eschborn)

The climb hills percentages here are not really suited for Lombardia and San Sebastian.
Because stamina counts a little bit more, but mainly flat and hills counts more in those classic races as in these GV percentages.
In Eschborn-Frankfurt flat is even way more important, and also sprint counts there. This classic race is different compared to the other 2.
The climb hills percentages of the NT evaluator are more for stage 7 Vuelta of next season, for example. So, with a mountain finish.
The final section of a race is always very important in the GV percentages.

I agree with you that hills and mountain counts about the same in those classic climbhills races, because of the final hills section.
That is not the case in the climbhill GV percentages of the Australian NT evaluator.

The GV percentages of Lombardia and San Sebastian are not entirely the same, but I cannot remember what the little difference was.
According to my now fast estimated GV percentages (it could be wrong of course) of this 2 climbhills classics races, the list look like this.
And here your Joe is the best Australian cyclist instead of his 4th place in the climbing hills list.
Of course he needs more climb training because section 4 is always decisive in those 2 classic climbhill races.

TP 15 GV  Lombardia and San Sebastian =

   1   Joe Ryan   20   Manicomicos_Cycling_Team   64,70
   2   Nate Henderson   20   FlyEaglesFly   64,64
   3   Kent Carey   20   Astanadena   64,59
   4   Austin Jones   20   oroel   61,52
   5   Merv Licuria   20   oroel   61,44
   6   Niles Thomas   20   ZBT   61,39
   7   Patrick Thompson   20   SPORTLIFE   60,88
   8   Mike Edgar   20   $Tourmalet   60,55
   9   Eddy Frances   20   CaptainOrange   60,33
   10   Norman Hilton   20   Riothamus   60,01
   11   Trevor Gatson   20   Flandria   59,96
   12   Cliff Fagan   20   SPORTLIFE   59,68
   13   Phil Burgess   20   FlyEaglesFly   59,60
   14   Pete Trautemberg   20   SPORTLIFE   58,96
   15   Norman Sampson   20   BOS   58,89






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Re: s2 : Australia NT
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2019, 04:05:41 PM »
edit ; And if Joe Ryan could be one of the best CFF cyclists in those classic climbhills races ?
Impossible for me to estimate that right now, because I don't know how good the competition is or will be.
Of course talent rating and how good a manager trains his cyclist are important also.
But if I look at his impressive stats right now, with good training he could be great in those classic climbhills races and your objective can be become a reality. Good luck with Joe Ryan !  :)


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« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2019, 07:07:54 PM »
hahah, understood. Of course, talent counts (his talent and my talent xD), and I know also that for those kind of races, plain and even sprint counts. In my evaluator I always have 2 rankings, climbing-hills and hills-climbing with 39-23 for the first one and 18-34 for the second one (then with different secoundaries and so...of course).

Good to know, that at least, in GV is the best australian (now). He started to train climb today in fact! 90 hills reached!

Joe Ryan   Age : 20   Wage : 819
Stamina : 57   Sprint : 27   Climbing : 71
Flat : 50   Cobblestone : 21   Technique : 14
Downhill : 60   Hills : 90   Aggressiveness : 75
Time Trial : 6   Teamwork : 6   Experience : 16

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« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2019, 03:16:46 PM »
RACE 5 : Cobble-Hills Limburg ( Belgium and the Netherlands )


14ºC

Riemst, Belgium,
Today a difficult cobble-hills race with finish in the Netherlands. In the pictures the amazing victory of vanderPoel in the hills of Limburg (AGR).
I cannot predict if Australia will be good in this race. We will see what happens.
The selection is a mix of suited GV riders/helpers and good helpers for the first three hills sections. This means some good cobblehills riders are not selected, for example Brubaker and Trump, but they are for sure in the picture of the NT.
One semi-xp cyclist is selected, the very promising 19yo Byers.

Australia NT selection ( in blue the xp ) :

Steve Sampson (20) SentinelChickens    7
Joe Wind (20) Antequera    8
Nate Douglas (20) SentinelChickens    11
Lenny Pinkney (20) Wiggo_pupils    10
Colin Ryan (20) beerkes    2
Wendell Burton (20) ECIN    5
Kane Paxton (20) $Tourmalet    6
Jake Coburn (20) Antequera    7
Alex Byers (19) Marineros    3
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2019, 12:30:30 AM »
Ok, a 6th and 13th place gives 250 points and 3rd in the day ranking.
Up one place in the ranking by countries and now 2nd, just 55 points behind Norway.

But it is all very close, for example the nr6 is 290 points behind, and winning a NT race gives 300 points.
So with 2 more NT races to go, everything might be possible.
Next week a hills time trial in Basque Country, Spain.

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« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2019, 08:21:10 AM »
oohhh, greaat race! And now we are 2nd in the classification!! g0 g0 g0!!

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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2019, 01:20:25 PM »
Yes, it looks good Franky.  :)
For now that is, still anything can happen in the final 2 NT races.

Suddenly 20 more 19yo's. The main reason ; a few days ago 2 new Australian teams came into the game and they start with 19yo's.

The u21 lists will be made tomorrow, the same goes for the  NT selection and the preview of NT race 6 ( hills TT ).

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