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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #120 on: May 08, 2023, 12:19:26 PM »
Lagos de Covadonga was quite exciting after all. First with Van Vleuten calling the support car but not using it (I still don't know why), and then when Van Vleuten was dropped from Vollering and Realini. If you think about it, Vollering didn't win La Vuelta by 9 seconds because of a pee.

I'm sure the battles between these three are going to be really fun in Giro and Tour.

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #121 on: May 08, 2023, 02:03:02 PM »
First with Van Vleuten calling the support car but not using it (I still don't know why)
I was curious about this too, and I searched extensive for the answer but could not find it.
Also because a Dutch reporter did not do his job well, because in a 4 minutes interview with van Vleuten after the race,
half of the interview was about the final climb and the Dutch reporter did not ask about it.
Weird, because his live-reporter-colleagues were speculating a lot about this issue during the race,
and were wondering too why van Vleuten seemed desperately to ask for her support car.

So, even after my search with the advantage that I understand Dutch, I still don't know why because nobody asked van Vleuten.

During the race, the main speculation was that it seemed that van Vleuten was not happy with the tire pressure,
what would explain her once jumping up and down a bit with one tire, and it looked like that she wanted a bike change.
But due to the increasing pace of Vollering, it was not a good moment to do that. According to the speculating live reporters.

In my opinion what is also speculation ; if she really had tire pressure issue,
she could and would have changed her bike in a later phase of the race, for example when she was isolated.
I guess that she was very nervous and was trying to find causes why her legs did not feel like yesterday,
and the reason, in just my opinion, was that she was had no superlegs anymore due to the big effort in previous stage.
Maybe she needed the support car to reassure/comfort her that her tire pressure was fine, and that she had simply no super legs.

But just like you, ophiuko, I still don't know why and there could be a number of explanations to this mystery.
She did mention in the interview that she was very nervous when the climb started
what would be an excellent opportunity for the interviewer to ask her about this issue, but he did not ask, what is pretty stupid.
We should have known why the Vuelta winner called the support car in the last climb that even was decisive for GC victory.
Instead, we have a mystery now = very weird. Hopefully the media do a much better job in the other women's tours of this season.


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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #122 on: May 08, 2023, 02:30:46 PM »
I guess we will have to wait until season 5 of Movistar's the Least Expected Day ;D

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #123 on: May 08, 2023, 07:56:15 PM »

Matthews wins stage 3 with uphill-sprint-finish.

CFF League stage 3 winner = Foeke  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  Vos
0:18"  Patrick Kok
0:23"  Aurora Australis
- - - - - - - - - -
0:31"  Mitte *
0:32"  ZG
0:34"  AJFactoryCycling
0:40"  MarnixStar
0:47"  Foeke *
0:57"  HtcHun
1:06"  Teacher

top 3 sprint classification ;
336  Foeke *
331  Vos
326  Patrick Kok

top 3 mountain classification ;
9  Kalarratas
WinterIsComing
BrotasTeam *

top3 youth classification ;
42  Mitte *
41  AJFactoryCycling
41  HtcHun

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #124 on: May 09, 2023, 10:49:39 AM »
next tours ;
  25 hours and 45 minutes left to join
no previous winners.
  3 days left to join.
previous winner ; Mitte ( 22 ).
  7 days left to join.
previous winners ; Kalarratas ( 22 + 18 ), TeamElrosportu ( 19 ), Thorin ( 17 ), Txonys ( 16 ).

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #125 on: May 09, 2023, 10:35:25 PM »

A very fierce, insane-high-pace battle in the first half( ! ) of this stage, because most cyclists wanted to be in the break away.
Finally there was a break away group, and out of these 7, two cyclists attacked successfully on the last climb.
Stage winner A.Paret-Peintre outsprinted new GC leader Leknessund.

CFF League stage 4 winner = 5o&Tapa  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  Patrick Kok
0:44"  Vos
0:56"  Mitte *
- - - - - - - - - -
1:00"  5o&Tapa *
1:25"  GaoYao
1:47"  AJFactoryCycling
1:58"  Vlominck
1:58"  Aurora Australis
2:09"  Foeke *
2:10"  MarnixStar

top 3 sprint classification ;
428  Patrick Kok
391  Vos
387  Foeke *

top 3 mountain classification ;
48  Kalarratas
36  Patrick Kok
36  5o&Tapa *

top3 youth classification ;
59  Mitte *
50  Vlominck
47  AJFactoryCycling
47  HtcHun

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #126 on: May 11, 2023, 10:18:14 AM »
  Groenewegen wins stage 1.

CFF League stage 1 winner = Kalarratas  8)



Many crashes in this rainy stage 5, incl. GC contenders such as Evenepoel ( twice ) and Roglic. For now, it seems that they are allright.
Groves won the sprint, what a crash too, see the finish picture with Cavendish sliding over the finish line.

CFF League stage 5 winner = ZG  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  Patrick Kok
0:37"  Vos
0:59"  Mitte *
- - - - - - - - - -
1:34"  5o&Tapa *
1:51"  ZG *
1:54"  AJFactoryCycling
2:12"  Foeke *
2:13"  GaoYao
2:13"  Aurora Australis
2:38"  MarnixStar

top 3 sprint classification ;
568  Patrick Kok
551  Foeke *
543  Vos

top 3 mountain classification ;
48  Kalarratas
36  Patrick Kok
36  5o&Tapa *

top 3 youth classification ;
77  Mitte *
61  Vlominck
59  AJFactoryCycling
59  HtcHun

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #127 on: May 11, 2023, 07:40:03 PM »
  Jakobsen wins stage 2.

CFF League stage 2 winner = Vlominck  8)
Vlominck is the new GC leader.


  M.Pedersen wins stage 6.

CFF League stage 6 winner = Patrick Kok  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  Patrick Kok *
1:35"  Vos
2:39"  5o&Tapa *
- - - - - - - - - -
2:45"  Mitte *
2:52"  AJFactoryCycling
2:59"  ZG *
3:03"  GaoYao
3:19"  Aurora Australis
3:25"  Foeke *
3:43"  HtcHun

top 3 sprint classification ;
725  Patrick Kok *
671  Foeke *
661  Vos

top 3 mountain classification ;
48  Kalarratas
38  Mlb
36  Patrick Kok *
36  5o&Tapa *

top 3 youth classification ;
92  Mitte *
72  Patrick Kok *
71  AJFactoryCycling
71  HtcHun
71  Vlominck

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #128 on: May 11, 2023, 07:43:49 PM »
next tour ;
  14 hours and 22 minutes left to join.
previous winner ; Mitte ( 22 ).

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #129 on: May 13, 2023, 12:23:07 AM »
  solo victory of Vollering with a big time gap towards the rest.

CFF League stage 1winner = Vos  :)

  Hirschi wins solo mountain stage 3, and takes the GC lead.

CFF League stage 3 winner = Patrick Kok  8)
Patrick Kok is the new GC leader with 2 more stages to go.


A break away of 3 battled for stage victory. D.Bais won on the final climb, the very steep Gran Sasso.
The GC contenders took some kind of rest day in this mountain stage, what could have had a spectacular final.
My cynical comment =
Every GC contender seems to have this "strategy" ; save energy now, in order to "win" a lot of time on Evenepoel in Sunday's time trial.
???

CFF League stage 7 winner = pizzaboys  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  Patrick Kok *
1:42"  Vos
2:22"  Mitte *
- - - - - - - - - -
2:36"  5o&Tapa *
2:41"  AJFactoryCycling
3:01"  GaoYao
3:15"  ZG *
3:17"  Aurora Australis
3:47"  MarnixStar
3:51"  Foeke *

top 3 sprint classification ;
768  Patrick Kok *
708  Foeke *
697  Vos

top 3 mountain classification ;
62  Kalarratas
62  pizzaboys *
53  Mlb

top 3 youth classification ;
104  Mitte *
82  Vlominck
80  Patrick Kok *

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #130 on: May 13, 2023, 10:31:10 PM »
  again Vollering wins, this time by outsprinting the approx. 11 others of the front group.

CFF League stage 2 winner = Vos  :)
Vos is the GC leader with 1 more mountain stage to go, including the famous climb Jaizkibel, known from Classica San Sebastian.

  Voisard claimed the first pro win of his young career,
attacking out of a much reduced leading group and holding off the chase to win on the category 1 climb at Dobogókő.
The 24yo surged just as the last two riders of the day-long breakaway came into view and rode the pair off his wheel
and won the stage by 10 seconds ahead of the group of favorites.
Including GC leader Hirschi, who came under attack repeatedly from Ineos Grenadiers
but managed to match off the surges and keep the GC lead by 10 seconds over Tulett.
Stage winner Voisard moved up to 3rd GC, what probably will be the final GC, because the last stage 5 is a flat sprint race.

CFF League stage 4 winner = Patrick Kok  8)
Patrick Kok is still the GC leader with 1 more stage to go.

An impressive solo victory of Healy, who attacked out of the break away with 50(!)km to go.
And there was GC action ; Roglič attacked with 4 km to go, he and the 2 Ineos teamcaptains won 14 seconds on Evenepoel.

Tomorrow the flat time trial of 35 km, but unfortunately without Ganna ( 4x picked ), who did not start today due to a positive covid test.

CFF League stage 8 winner = ZG  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  Patrick Kok *
1:49"  Vos
1:59"  5o&Tapa *
- - - - - - - - - -
2:12"  AJFactoryCycling
2:14"  ZG **
2:14"  Mitte *
2:42"  GaoYao
2:58"  Aurora Australis
3:31"  MarnixStar
3:32"  Teacher

top 3 sprint classification ;
810  Patrick Kok *
753  Foeke *
749  ZG **

top 3 mountain classification ;
72  Kalarratas
62  pizzaboys *
61  ZG **

top 3 youth classification ;
116  Mitte *
93  Vlominck
87  Patrick Kok *
87  5o&Tapa *
87  AJFactoryCycling
87  HtcHun

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #131 on: May 14, 2023, 11:35:45 AM »
Last stage in Hungary cancelled due to weather.

Vollering & Itzulia is out of this world. 2 editions, 3 stages each, she won the three stages last year and the first 2 this year. Literally Itzulia Women has not seen any winner other than Vollering.  :o

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #132 on: May 14, 2023, 12:25:34 PM »
Yes, I just read the latest news about the Tour de Hongrie.
In fact, it is neutralized ; originally it was 15 laps, but they still ride 8 laps on the ( due to rain ) slippery roads in Budapest.
However, no points, no time differences, and not even a winner of this weird neutralized 8 laps "race" will be pointed out.
I guess this is a strange effort of the organisation to keep the fans and ( especially ) the sponsors satisfied,
and I guess the roads are not slippery enough to cycle on, but too slippery to race on.

An alternative route with neutralized start in Budapest and then outside Budapest a ( short ) real sprint race + finish,
would have been a better solution, in my opinion.
Assuming that the roads outside Budapest are not too slippery to race on. Streets in big cities often can be too slippery after rain.

Well, after this Hungarian (slippery-)soap-episode ; now all focus is on Vollering and Evenepoel. :)

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #133 on: May 14, 2023, 10:47:47 PM »

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Re: WCS 2023
« Reply #134 on: May 14, 2023, 10:49:55 PM »
I find it suspicious as I think the rules don't force you to leave with a Covid positive. Also, he won today so he shouldn't have any symptoms, and tomorrow is rest day, he could have always waited and see how he was after tomorrow. Opinions?