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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #180 on: June 16, 2021, 09:17:02 AM »
Yo después de top 3 en giro..con 4 etapas...espero estar a la altura en el tour...mi objetivo no es tan alto pero al menos ganar una etapa y hacer top5 o top10 aunque estará difícil..

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #181 on: June 22, 2021, 11:04:22 PM »
Hopefully I'm getting all of my withdraws out of the way before the race.

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #182 on: June 23, 2021, 08:44:49 AM »
Same here, and I have never seen so many mutations before a race or a tour.
Also it seems like an ongoing process of mutations, that is new to me too, so far it changes every single day.

Maybe this fact is of influence ; the Olympic roadrace starts just 6 days after the TdF finishes.
For me, this is something to consider in the final choices of the 15 picks.

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #183 on: June 23, 2021, 09:27:44 AM »
Maybe this fact is of influence ; the Olympic roadrace starts just 6 days after the TdF finishes.
For me, this is something to consider in the final choices of the 15 picks.
I don't know why any of them would think they can do both, or at least both well, and particularly given that some did the Giro too.  And for those wanting "race legs," surely a shorter race would do fine.

If I was a team manager, I'd be saying no to having those seeing Olympic glory in the TdF, of course money comes into it (TdF paying teams based on who starts the race).

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #184 on: June 23, 2021, 09:46:44 AM »
Indeed, money plays for a sure a role in the selection decisions.
In a situation where the cyclists have a contract with their team ( TdF ) but are riding for their nation in the olympic race with a different staff.
But some mutations have each a different story, although i.m.o. the real reason does not have to be the reason they released in the press.

For example topsprinter Sam Bennett is deselected with as official reason a knee injury.
But his team manager reacted like this ;
“I cannot prove that he does not have knee pain, but I am starting to think more and more that it is more fear of failure than just pain.”
So this is a big part of his reason why Bennett is deselected.
And in my opinion this might have something to do with it also ;
the fact that Bennett leaves his team at the end of 2021, and signed a contract with rival team Bora-Hansgrohe.
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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #185 on: June 26, 2021, 08:18:42 AM »


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TOP FAVORITES CFF LEAGUE :

= TdF results 2020 + 2019 + 2018 + 2017. ( x = total TdF stage victories )  dns = did not start
Giro2021 result + past big tour victories.
2021 = little tour victories, in bold the WT ranked little tours.

the bookmakers can change the stars-rating with every update.

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Patrick Kok  =  1+ 1+ dns + dns.  ( 2 )
Giro = 2
2021 = Coppi e Bartali.
⭐⭐⭐⭐ Kalarratas  =  7 + 6+ 8 + 21.  ( 2 )
Giro = 5 + Vuelta 2020
2021 = Étoile de Bessèges + Tour du Var + Volta ao Algarve.

⭐⭐⭐⭐ Ricoo  =  2 on 0:04" + dns + 4 + dns.  ( 0 )

⭐⭐⭐⭐ Mlb  =  13 + dns + dns + dns.  ( 0 )
Giro = 1
⭐⭐⭐ Cosminelul  =  24 + dns + 1+ dns.  ( 4 )
Giro = 11
2021 = Tour of Turkey + Tour de Romandie.
⭐⭐⭐ pizzaboys  =  22+ 3 + 6 + 2.  ( 4 )
Giro = 23
2021 = u23 Giro + Tour of Slovenia.

⭐⭐⭐ Vlominck  =  debut
Giro = 3
2021 = Tour of the Alps + Vuelta a Asturias + Boucles de la Mayenne.

⭐⭐⭐ WinterIsComing  =  4 + 4 + 14 + 7.  ( 1 )

⭐⭐⭐ Vos  =  5 + 9 + 12 + 20.  ( 0 )
Giro = 10
2021 = Tour de la Provence + UAE Tour + Volta a Valenciana + Vuelta a Burgos(w) + Tour of Malopolska + Tour de Suisse.
⭐⭐⭐ PieterJanVB  =  12 + 2 + 5+ 9.  ( 3 )
Giro = 25

⭐⭐⭐ Aurora Australis  =  11 + dns + 18 + 6.  ( 0 )
Giro = 7 + Giro 2017

⭐⭐⭐ Animatoca  =  26 + 26 + dns + dns.  ( 0 )
Giro = 13 + Giro 2020+ Giro 2019
⭐⭐⭐ 5o&Tapa  =  18 + 15 + 2+ 8.  ( 6 )
Giro = 6

⭐⭐⭐ azerite  =  6 + 7 + dns + dns.  ( 3 )
Giro = 12

⭐⭐⭐ GaoYao  =  10 + 8 + dns + dns.  ( 3 )
Giro = 20 + Vuelta 2019

⭐⭐ B.E-L  =  debut
Giro = 4

⭐⭐ Foeke  =  20 + 14 + dns + dns.  ( 1 )
Giro = 17 + Giro 2018

⭐⭐ BrotasTeam  =  dns + 25 + 15 + 18.  ( 0 )
Giro = 9
2021 = Volta a Catalunya + Itzulia Basque Country.

⭐⭐ Mardandoo  =  debut
Giro = 8
2021 = Dauphiné.
⭐⭐ Tarod  =  25+ 17 + 10 + 14.  ( 7 )

⭐⭐ ophiuko  =  debut
Giro = 19
2021 = Paris-Nice + Tour du Rwanda + Vuelta a Andalucía + Tour of Slovenia.

⭐⭐ Mitte  =  debut
Giro = 18
2021 = Tirreno-Adriatico + Belgium Tour.

⭐⭐ Sjiz  =  8 + 21 + dns + dns.  ( 0 )

Averatalm  =  14 + 16 + 9 + dns.  ( 0 )

Thorin  =  dns + dns + dns + 13.  ( 0 )
Giro = 15

Combuijs  =  19 + dns + 19 + 19.  ( 1 )
Giro = 22

kekipi  =  debut
Giro = 16

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #186 on: June 26, 2021, 11:00:36 PM »
  Vollering wins the uphill-sprint before Ludwig(2nd) and Vos(3rd).

CFF League winner = Vos  :)



A solo victory of Alaphilippe in stage 1.

Two gigantic crashes had a big impact on this stage ; some had injuries and big time loss, or even worse ;
Sütterlin, Konovalovas and Lemoine are already abandon.
And the latest news is that Soler does not start tomorrow, also due to the crashes. Perhaps tomorrow one or a few more do not start too.

CFF League stage 1 winner = Cosminelul  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  Cosminelul
0:14"  pizzaboys
0:17"  Tarod
- - - - - - - - - -
0:20"  ophiuko
0:23"  Foeke
0:24"  Sjiz
0:25"  Thorin
0:27"  PieterJanVB
0:28"  Mitte
0:29"  BrotasTeam

top 3 sprint classification ;
149  Cosminelul
145  Sjiz
144  Thorin

top 3 mountain classification ;
20  Tarod
20  ophiuko
16  Cosminelul
16  Vos

top 3 youth classification ;
15  Vlominck
15  Kalarratas
14  ophiuko
14  Thorin
14  Mardandoo
14  Mlb
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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #187 on: June 27, 2021, 09:47:05 PM »



Magnificient solo victory of van der Poel, ánd an incredible achievement that he is the new GC leader now.
Because in order to get the yellow jersey, he also had to win the first passage of the Mûr-de-Bretagne to score extra boni-seconds.
In the picture ; when van der Poel crossed the finishline, his thoughts were with his grandfather Poulidor, who passed away 19 months ago.

CFF League stage 2 winner = ophiuko  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  ophiuko
0:34"  5o&Tapa
0:46"  Mardandoo
- - - - - - - - - -
0:49"  GaoYao
0:51"  pizzaboys
0:52"  Vos
0:54"  PieterJanVB
1:02"  Averatalm
1:06"  azerite
1:08"  Tarod

top 3 sprint classification ;
286  ophiuko
268  Mardandoo
268  Sjiz

top 3 mountain classification ;
48  ophiuko
44  Vos
36  PieterJanVB
36  BrotasTeam
36  kekipi

top 3 youth classification ;
25  ophiuko
25  pizzaboys
25  Kalarratas
25  Animatoca
25  Vlominck

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #188 on: June 29, 2021, 06:49:40 AM »

Merlier wins stage 3.
A stage with many crashes and many victims. Among them Thomas, and in a later crash Roglič who felt hard and lost time.
Geesink, Haig ( 11x picked ) and Ewan ( 21x picked ) are abondan ; maybe more before stage 4 starts today. 

CFF League stage 3 winner = PieterJanVB  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  ophiuko
0:03"  PieterJanVB
0:15"  Vos
- - - - - - - - - -
0:37"  Mardandoo
0:52"  5o&Tapa
1:00"  GaoYao
1:04"  Averatalm
1:23"  BrotasTeam
1:28"  Cosminelul
1:37"  Foeke

top 3 sprint classification ;
389  PieterJanVB
387  Vos
380  ophiuko
380  Mardandoo

top 3 mountain classification ;
52  ophiuko
44  Vos
36  PieterJanVB
36  BrotasTeam
36  Tarod
36  kekipi

top 3 youth classification ;
34  pizzaboys
34  Animatoca
32  ophiuko
32  Kalarratas
32  Vlominck

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #189 on: June 29, 2021, 08:04:04 AM »
When I heard the description of the last few kms, I was wondering whether this type of thing would occur.  I don't get their idea, if they want sprint stages to be more exciting, then they should make the entire stage more strenuous to make them work, not have 200km of boredom & the last couple of kms a narrow numerous corner traffic jam accident waiting to happen.

Yes, I know it's fun to watch, but so is a smash-up derby.  You don't want that for F1 though, and they shouldn't seek it here.  They need to ask whether they're a professional sport and start thinking like one.

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #190 on: June 29, 2021, 02:33:18 PM »
To me this is not fun to watch at all ; only a few weird thrill-seekers like to see such a stage.

It seems to me the same old story caused by A.S.O. ; commercial interest was chosen above sportive interest.
In this case a famous local castle had to be near the finishline ; nice heli-pictures are more important than the safety of cyclists.

Hopefully they will finally realise that such a stage with many crashes is bad publicity for the cycling sport and the Tour de France.

And on top of this, also a very dumb mistake with 2 curves right before the finishline.
As you can see in the picture that I have posted, they cannot sprint in a straight line and have to switch from left to right.

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #191 on: June 29, 2021, 02:50:16 PM »
What if a miracle happened, and there were no crashes in the narrow streets of the last 10km ;
then many, many, many would be involved in the crash of Ewan and Sagan, right before the finishline.
It would have been a gigantic crash on a very high speed, due to the descending road before the final 2 curves.

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #192 on: June 29, 2021, 05:56:58 PM »
well this tour is going much better compared to the giro, just sad about ewan. But first in the cff group and 42th in the general GC.

Now I have to keep it.

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #193 on: June 30, 2021, 01:43:52 PM »

Cavendish wins stage 4 ; his 31st TdF stage victory of his career and his first win since 2016.

CFF League stage 4 winner = B.E-L  8)

There is a new GC leader in the CFF League. I guess he spared his legs in the Giro.  ;)
Since now I will add behind the name --> * ( = stage victory in this TdF )


TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  PieterJanVB *
1:15"  ophiuko *
1:17"  Mardandoo
- - - - - - - - - -
1:33"  Cosminelul *
1:38"  GaoYao
1:48"  Vos
1:51"  B.E-L *
1:55"  Averatalm
2:31"  BrotasTeam
2:47"  Sjiz

top 3 sprint classification ;
549  PieterJanVB *
520  Cosminelul *
507  B.E-L *

top 3 mountain classification ;
52  ophiuko *
44  Vos
36  PieterJanVB *
36  BrotasTeam
36  Tarod
36  kekipi

top 3 youth classification ;
40  ophiuko *
39  Kalarratas
39  Vlominck

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Re: WCS 2021
« Reply #194 on: July 01, 2021, 12:15:20 AM »

Pogačar wins the time trial with a big time gap towards his rivals.
Van der Poel ( 5º on 0:31" ) did great too by unexpectedly holding on to the yellow jersey. Pogačar is now 2nd GC on just 8 seconds.

CFF League stage 5 winner = BrotasTeam  8)

TOP 10 GC ;
0:00"  PieterJanVB *
0:53"  ophiuko *
1:17"  GaoYao
- - - - - - - - - -
1:19"  Mardandoo
1:36"  Averatalm
1:38"  Vos
1:53"  BrotasTeam *
1:54"  B.E-L *
2:04"  Cosminelul *
2:48"  5o&Tapa

top 3 sprint classification ;
634  PieterJanVB *
595  Cosminelul *
590  B.E-L *

top 3 mountain classification ;
52  ophiuko *
44  Vos
36  PieterJanVB *
36  BrotasTeam *
36  kekipi
36  Tarod

top 3 youth classification ;
49  ophiuko *
49  Thorin
48  Mlb
48  Kalarratas
48  Vlominck


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